New Floating Cycle Roundabout (2012)

Post by Scarblac » Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 5:02 PM UTC

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Possibly but images like this an be misleading. As the article on the floating roundabout points out it's not all that high above ground, the junction itself is below ground level. The cars are in fact doing most of the vertical movement. The floating roundabout does have the disadvantage that you need a bigger height difference to allow the cars to pass below it.

I know both the "Berekuil" as well as the "cycle roundabout" as they are both down here in Eindhoven. The Berekuil is nice, but very confusing as to what direction to go as you no longer can see the roads once you are down in there. The floating cycle roundabout OTOH is fantastic as you keep having a great overview. It really is a marvel of engineering. The slope is not a problem on either of them for the average bic…

Post by gpvos » Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 5:09 PM UTC

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You're clearly not up to date with the situation on the ground here. We're upgrading our cycle infrastructure and removing cars from city centres at the same time. Where there's no space for segregated infrastructure or in rural areas where it would not be economical, speed reductions are generally applied: 30 km/h in built-up areas, 60 km/h outside. As for the why: car and bicycle speeds are just too different. Segr…

There is one basic rule of traffic engineering: first come first served. It allows for vehicles of different speeds to share the road. Your responsibility as a driver of a vehicle is to not drive so fast that you can not possibly stop within your field of view (you are not driving a train), that is enough to share the road with bicycles, tractors, horses or whatever. Of course drivers of cars do not want to be bother…

Post by NietTim » Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 9:02 PM UTC

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Patat or Friet?

Excellent question. Friet, although I have to remember to ask for patat when visiting Oma en Opa.

Post by gpvos » Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 3:17 PM UTC

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You are stating the obvious, then drawing a conclusion that is the opposite of the logical one. I can only conclude that you are trolling.

As a cyclist who have taken the effort to ride correctly not only I have to put up with motorists who think that the road belongs to them, also with bicycle activists who think it is best for me to ride as If I were a pedestrian on wheels and that of course the road also belongs to motorists. Now I also have to put up with people on the internet who say that I am a troll because I try to explain as best as I can how…

Post by gpvos » Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 12:49 AM UTC

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I am a daily fervent cyclist, but from what I'm reading I don't think I am a fellow cyclist of you.

You are probably a pedestrian on wheels then