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Why do holes horrify me?

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Re: Why do holes horrify me?

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When I was a kid I tried to make porous plaster brick with baking soda and gypsum. I think I used chalk instead of gypsum because it didn't set. However it was porous and when I saw holes inside I felt as if it was dangerous (maybe even evil).

I had to wait till the internet happened to find out what was that all about.

I have to repeat this experiment some day. I probably got less sensitive since then.

Re: Why do holes horrify me?

#42
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I don't think it's just that, though. I'd never heard of it, or the concept of it, when I first saw one of those "doctors hate this weird trick for getting rid of parasites" or whatever ads. It had a photoshop of some kind of a seed pod onto human skin, so it looked like a bunch of worm heads inside holes or something. I almost threw up the instant I looked at it. I later found out that lots of people have that react…

I definitely had a mild reaction to that sort of image, long, long before it was discussed anywhere. My first instance, as a teenager, was where I had found a lump of play-doh, and (for whatever reason) jabbed it repeatedly with a pencil. I was then disgusted by what I had created. My second early incident was seeing the cover of the O'Reilly book "Windows Annoyances", which features an image of a Surinam toad with y…

Wow, I hadn’t heard of the Surinam toad. That’s so weird and a little creepy.

Re: Why do holes horrify me?

#43

When I was a kid I tried to make porous plaster brick with baking soda and gypsum. I think I used chalk instead of gypsum because it didn't set. However it was porous and when I saw holes inside I felt as if it was dangerous (maybe even evil). I had to wait till the internet happened to find out what was that all about. I have to repeat this experiment some day. I probably got less sensitive since then.

Interesting - does the Apple Watch Nike sport band (with holes) inspire the same revulsion from you?

Re: Why do holes horrify me?

#44
post #35

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Perhaps it's a local thing. If you're around guinea worms, you evolve to be afraid of their signs, maybe? Not everyone is afraid of spiders or snakes, but there's a good evolutionary reason to be, so maybe people who aren't afraid of them are from areas without extremely venomous versions?

> Not everyone is afraid of spiders or snakes, but there's a good evolutionary reason to be, so maybe people who aren't afraid of them are from areas without extremely venomous versions? This reaction is almost certainly a taught cultural behaviour. In some areas of the world, snakes/spiders are considered food sources. Many of these areas, such as the amazon, also contain the highest concentrations of venomous speci…

I’m not sure I believe that. I was terrified of spiders since I was a little kid. I couldn’t touch the pages of the nature picture books my parents bought me before I could read. Neither of my parents were afraid of spiders, but they freaked my young self out. It’s gotten better now and I can coexist with them, but I would still freak out if a spider were on me. Thinking about it is increasing my pulse as I write this.

Re: Why do holes horrify me?

#45
post #43

When I was a kid I tried to make porous plaster brick with baking soda and gypsum. I think I used chalk instead of gypsum because it didn't set. However it was porous and when I saw holes inside I felt as if it was dangerous (maybe even evil). I had to wait till the internet happened to find out what was that all about. I have to repeat this experiment some day. I probably got less sensitive since then.

Interesting - does the Apple Watch Nike sport band (with holes) inspire the same revulsion from you?

Not really. I've seen that kind of imagery on the internet and even the worst ones give me bearly noticeable uneasiness.

I want to try to recreate that first thing that triggered me. Maybe physical object will work stronger than images or some specific proportions between hole size, distance, shading, randomness.

It wasn't even revulsion. Just a feeling it's dangerous or somehow evil. Despite full knowledge it's not because I just made it with perfectly safe ingredients that don't react to create something worse.

Re: Why do holes horrify me?

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's just that, though. I'd never heard of it, or the concept of it, when I first saw one of those "doctors hate this weird trick for getting rid of parasites" or whatever ads. It had a photoshop of some kind of a seed pod onto human skin, so it looked like a bunch of worm heads inside holes or something. I almost threw up the instant I looked at it. I later found out that lots of people have that react…

If it's the picture I'm thinking of, it's actually a photo of a girls knees after she was made to kneel on frozen peas as a punishment. If you Google "Kneeling On Frozen Peas" you can find articles about it.

No, that’s not the one. This was definitely shopped to depict occupied holes in a person.

Re: Why do holes horrify me?

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There actually are no triggering images. I guess they want trypophobics to be able to read it.

Pretty few would take the risk, I bet. It's an interesting problem- we have "trigger warnings" and "content warnings" but not "content all-clears."

I'm actually surprised accessibility movements haven't standardized an HTML tag or a meta attribute that specifies that the site has certain phobia-inducing images. It would allow people with certain phobias to avoid seeing such images (e.g. images could be auto-blanked, text blurred).

Re: Why do holes horrify me?

#48
post #13

Not even clicking on this article because I know it's about trypophobia and I'm afraid of seeing the pictures!

There actually are no triggering images. I guess they want trypophobics to be able to read it.

Not even joking here, I got triggered by the "mosaic newsletter" animation half way through the article and I had to close the article. That's how strong my trypophobia is. Heck, even the word "trypophobia" is a trigger for me.

Re: Why do holes horrify me?

#49
post #36

Humans want to avoid disease and some diseases can causes holes or hole-like symptoms on victims, so it's human nature to be horrified of clusters of holes because it's abnormal.

That's the thing, most "example images" aren't just a bunch of holes or circles (I've never heard anyone claim security mesh or a half-cooked pancake are horrifying, although apparently crumpets are a known trigger?). They're photos (either shopped or real) of something that looks like a gnarly parasite infection. Disliking that is not 'phobia', it's legitimately yuck.

It's not merely a 'dislike' though.

I've had arachnophobia (spiders). It feels like an intense, paranoid, startling horror which demands visual attention and quick jumping away of the body. If I know there's a spider nearby, I must be able to see it from a safe distance.

I have trypophobia (holes). It feels like my skin is crawling, like I'm being eaten alive from the inside, like my very essence of being is being violated by some cosmic plague, commanding me to look away and get as far away from the holed object as possible -- though without excessive urgency.

I can look at many things I dislike; many things I know for fact are dangerous. I can't look at certain kinds of clusters of holes.

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