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The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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post #33

Why this when applications like Telegram, Signal, etc. already exist? That ship has sailed…

There's arguably a market for commoditised secure messaging/queueing, baked into the standard radio silicon, that's a few steps ahead of sms.. Finance, email, voicemail, etc. P2P.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

#42
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd be happy to MMS my uncle if it didn't cost like two euros per 640x480 picture Wow, where are you living? I haven't paid to send an MMS in nearly ten years...

I've seen cheap contracts where SMS is unlimited, but never anything with unlimited MMS (Netherlands). I actually just checked what I currently pay for an MMS and youfone.nl doesn't even mention it in the price list. Since I have to ask, I guess I can't afford it :-)

Oh :O, up here in the north (Sweden) you have to look pretty hard to find a plan without unlimited everything but data.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

#43

Hard to call it a successor of SMS when have the world uses iOS which does not and currently has no plans to support it. So more just another service rather than a replacement for SMS which is a way for all phones to communicate with each other.

The world is bigger than the US.

More then just people in the US use iPhones?

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

#44
post #2

Disclosure: I work for SRLabs, the company who did this research. You can find more infos on our blog release: https://srlabs.de/bites/rcs-hacking/

I don't think you need to add a disclaimer if you use qualifiers such as "our".

Without it, someone will ask for confirmation that "our" really means "our", and someone else will complain about the lack of a disclaimer.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... he said, while his comment posted correctly, in the moment he wanted, because the tech behind the posting ability was Right.

Statistically most likely from a ≈25-100mb US connection while developed countries the world over have had gigabit for a decade... Our internet is quite a bit behind because telcos in this country don't have to meaningfully compete. Plenty of legislation has cemented their market dominance through artificial (and unnecessary) barriers to entry with practically no accountability for shoddy service and infrastructure.…

I’m paying the equivalent of $40 p/m for 600mbit download and 100mbit upload in Europe. I don’t think it’s even the best deal I could be getting.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... he said, while his comment posted correctly, in the moment he wanted, because the tech behind the posting ability was Right.

Statistically most likely from a ≈25-100mb US connection while developed countries the world over have had gigabit for a decade... Our internet is quite a bit behind because telcos in this country don't have to meaningfully compete. Plenty of legislation has cemented their market dominance through artificial (and unnecessary) barriers to entry with practically no accountability for shoddy service and infrastructure.…

The US is 10th in the fixed broadband ranking on speedtest.net[1], ahead of counties like Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, UK, etc.

[1] https://www.speedtest.net/global-index#fixed

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

#47

Telcos should focus on being dump pipes and leave the application layer to others. Going into messages or even content is nothing but a rent seeking attempt to exploit a missing net neutrality mandate.

Devil’s advocate: it’ll never change because where’s the money in being the provider of dumb pipes? More to the point, if you’re a publicly traded company with stock price and future earnings based off on this kind of rent seeking being priced into your valuation, and let’s also say you desperately wanted to do some the honorable thing and ramp operations down to dumb pipe level, how could the markets and shareholder…

Sure it can change. Apple is a model with iMessage. Google could build a messaging protocol that fell back to SMS/MMS if necessary.

If you want to know why Android still doesn’t have a standard messaging app or a standard video chat app, blame the incompetence of Google who has a half dozen failed messaging initiatives under its belt. Once it was dominant on Android, google could also release an app for iOS.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

... he said, while his comment posted correctly, in the moment he wanted, because the tech behind the posting ability was Right.

Statistically most likely from a ≈25-100mb US connection while developed countries the world over have had gigabit for a decade... Our internet is quite a bit behind because telcos in this country don't have to meaningfully compete. Plenty of legislation has cemented their market dominance through artificial (and unnecessary) barriers to entry with practically no accountability for shoddy service and infrastructure.…

Gigabit is not important, remember when you could finally buy a 10MW electrical feed for your home and how much it improved your quality of life... Right that didn't happen because it is not important at all. Running 100W to homes means people can have electric light, 1kW means they can have motorised appliances, and 10kW makes cooking and heating practical... But 10MW? You had no need for it, so it didn't happen.

Likewise more bandwidth enabled applications only up to a point, 40Mbps DSL is perfectly good for watching TV and so on. I had Gigabit on someone else's dime back at the turn of the century and when I bought service for my current home I not only didn't enquire what it would cost to run Gigabit here, I didn't even choose the expensive 80Mbps option, I already know 40Mbps is fine. What mattered most even going from dial-up to 1Mbps DSL wasn't bandwidth, it was Always On. The Network's omnipresence is what matters.

Fibre matters to some extent for infrastructure, same way it matters what a bridge is built from. Fibre coms doesn't attract thieves, not subject to RF interference, lots of benefits for infrastructure projects, but Gigabit Internet for the home? Not important.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

#49
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world is bigger than the US.

More then just people in the US use iPhones?

Outside the US the iPhone is not a common choice. It does exist, but most people don't have one. This makes Apple's social lock-in markedly less effective.
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