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Re: Google fires activist Rebecca Rivers and 3 others

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lol this is absurd, they're fighting against rampant sexual harassment and a variety of other real workplace problems, not being mind controlled by nefarious bolsheviks

What they're doing is running a political campaign.

yes, trying to stop employer misdeeds is indeed very political.

Re: Google fires activist Rebecca Rivers and 3 others

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post #15

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lol this is absurd, they're fighting against rampant sexual harassment and a variety of other real workplace problems, not being mind controlled by nefarious bolsheviks

> rampant sexual harassment Sounds like something straight from the Bolsheviks in an attempt to take down a larger entity purely for control. The concept Google is worse than general society is out there. Try looking at the real world, of transport or construction or the service industry or cleaning or food harvesting. Pretty much anywhere but the industry of IT of which Google is exemplary.

1. Google is not exemplary, lmao, they have a terrible culture of paying off executives for harassment and assault which has been thoroughly documented in the NYT and elsewhere

2. the idea that if somewhere else is worse, we shouldn't fight harassment here/in our job/in our industry, is abhorrent. this sort of blase, tone-deaf attitude towards gender oppression causes a lot of problems in tech. I'm very glad people are finally vocally fighting back.

Re: Google fires activist Rebecca Rivers and 3 others

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post #19

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honestly using diaeresis (things that look like umlauts) while typing stuff out about how people who don't want to work for an evil company are being controlled by other forces just gives off the biggest wannabe top hat monopoly capitalist vibe imaginable.

More like just following the New Yorker style guide, which are decidedly not top hat monopoly capitalists: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-curse-of-...

the new yorker is the most prominent top hat aesthetic organization in the world. just look at their icon. andwhile they are often nominally opposed to monopoly they're a thoroughly capitalist news organization that is privately owned by a selection of the superwealthy.

Re: Google fires activist Rebecca Rivers and 3 others

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post #29

Does firing employees for trying to unionize count as "being evil"?

It very much depends on the jurisdiction. I would say yes in most of the cases, but if there are insufficient union oversight processes, then unionization is a surefire way to close up shop due to the eventually inevitable waste/inefficiency. Also, it's an interesting question of how much unionization helped or worsened the automotor industry's problems around 2008. (And even before.) And of course the real point is…

>>And of course the real point is whether it helped the workers on the long term.

When Saturday rolls around and you don't have to work, keep in mind that's only the case because of unions... and health care and other benefits.

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