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Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by triclops200 »

bvda wrote: post #26
judah wrote: post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

I wonder why they chose to use (yet another) crypto currency for this.

I'd assume to limit how much transaction costs for microtransactions from many users. Credit cards are awful for small transactions, so you buy a bulk of BAT every month to reduce transactional overhead and then let creators cash out when they have some threshould of BAT. They could have done it way simpler than a cryptocurrency, though, by just using a floating point number in a database somewhere, but I'm assuming they assume a distributed ledger is more secure somehow.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by bilbo0s »

judah wrote: post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

>You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month)

What if a user doesn't earn 10 BAT a month browsing?

It seems like that system would break down over time.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by Sargos »

bvda wrote: post #26
judah wrote: post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

I wonder why they chose to use (yet another) crypto currency for this.

You need some sort of cryptocurrency for this as microtransactions don't really work in the legacy system. Also by using their own token they can boot strap the ecosystem cheaply as they can mint the tokens themselves with the value accruing later after network participants are onboarded and transacting.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by buboard »

have_faith wrote: post #30

If people like Brave's ad model, all the power to them. I would personally never touch it. I'm not philosophically on board with the idea that paying people to look at ads is a pragmatic way forward. It doesn't matter if it's opt-in, free-to-play games with loot crates are opt-in, but the decision to go down that road will effect their decision making process when designing new features and I don't want to be part of…

If people aren't willing to look at ads, what will news articles become? ads. What will HN comments become? Ads (many blog posts already are). Advertising covers a need

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by colordrops »

Hamcha wrote: post #22

I've used Brave since March, and I'm really not impressed. For a browser that tries to be different, it's incredible how little consideration has been given to things that annoy users and that could probably be trivial to remove. To be more specific, my issues with Brave are: - Still uses the Chrome Web Store as main store - Does not have an easy way to load packaged extensions from 3rd party sources - Even after add…

It's perfect for my use case: Chrome but with all the google bits removed and built-in ad-blocking. Can't say any of those things you listed have bothered me. I don't use BAT.

Edit: Why do so many new accounts (green text) post to any thread about Brave?

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by macspoofing »

bvda wrote: post #26
judah wrote: post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

I wonder why they chose to use (yet another) crypto currency for this.

Presumably, they want BAT to be publicly tradeable. Hard to do with a central currency.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by RandomBacon »

Dolores12 wrote: post #40
judah wrote: post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

You disable competitors ads to show your own. Something is wrong with it.

10 (5?) years ago, that used to be called malware.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by buboard »

mk89 wrote: post #11

I don't know if I understood it right, but BATs are only given when users see the ads, right? If this is the case, it seems that Brave fosters the use of ads, not reduce it. Is my understanding right?

I think they want users to be able to control the web through their attention. It's a great idea that acts as indirect pressure on websites to behave. As things are now, users have no way to slap a site on the wrist for being horribly slow and invasive. Brave seems to want to change that.
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