This is actually good news. The company I work at would never hire a Rails developer that uses ANY sort of IDE. Learn to use a good text editor and learn the Rails CLI.
It's pretentious attitudes like this that give some developers a bad name.
Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans
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Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans
#42Why do people use NetBeans for Rails?
I would bet a lot of them started as Java developers (who generally must have an IDE) who were experimenting with Ruby and used the tool they had in hand. There are also probably a chunk who want a "real" debugger.
Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans
#43This is actually good news. The company I work at would never hire a Rails developer that uses ANY sort of IDE. Learn to use a good text editor and learn the Rails CLI.
Cool. What else is your company overly dogmatic about?
Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans
#44Any suggestions on an alternative IDE?
Emacs + various extensions and goodies.
I completely agree with this. Emacs is an amazing environment that can be customized and extended in so many ways. It also has support for just about anything you'd ever want to do.
It's also nice that you don't have to have N dev environments installed to support each language you want to play with. I work in Java, C++, Python, Erlang, HTML, JavaScript, and Ruby fairly regularly. Installing and learning a completely new environment for each would be obnoxious.
Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans
#45Nooooo.... I've gradually moved away from NetBeans as a general Ruby/Rails editor but I often came back for the great debugging support. Any suggestion for alternative Rails debuggers?
https://github.com/astashov/vim-ruby-debugger
Works really well once you've sorted a few quirks - it's what finally allowed me to fully switch from NetBeans to Vim about a month ago.
Hint: add the following to your .vimrc if using MacVim:
let g:ruby_debugger_progname = 'mvim'Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Emacs + various extensions and goodies.
This is the killer feature of tools like emacs and vi: Your vendor cannot abandon you and the code has a well-proven capability to be ported to just about any platform.
The cross-platform aspects of these tools is way undersold. I have all my config checked in at BitBucket. I can sit down at a new machine, check out my emacs configuration, tweak a couple variables if things are non-standard on the box (paths and the like), and I've got my environment completely set up, whether Mac, Windows, Linux, or something else.
Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I use TextMate, but have been trying to make the switch to vim.
Are you seeing any benefit yet? (I've tried that switch myself but I think I gave up too early).
Mhh, it takes some time to get accustomed to vim but it's worth it. Just don't give up too early.
I'm using XCode and vim ... XCode for iOS development and for everything else vim. Prior to that I used TextMate ...
After a few weeks of constant vim usage it happens that I start typing vim commands into XCode (or into any other bigger text field). For example I regularly press a/i/o before I start typing the text. Or I try to block mark/yank text selections, etc. instead of use copy and paste :)
After a few weeks of regular usage you start getting a grasp on vim and will constantly ask yourself why all the other editors suck :)
(I tend to use console vim - not macvim. Macvim somehow doesn't feel right.)
Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans
#48You know between Java, Hudson and moves like this it feels like we're ripe for an Onion-style article about Oracle execs running out of ideas for pissing off the OSS community and so doing a road-trip around the country to individually insult every OSS developer and user in the most graphic and personal way they can think of.
The OSS community for Hudson (actually, CloudBees) is forking Hudson against Oracle's will.
RoR support is just dropped due to various constraints and the community is actually encouraged to intervene:
>However, we strongly encourage our community of NetBeans Ruby users and developers to volunteer to take on development of Ruby on Rails support for the NetBeans IDE.
I'm curious if people will pick up RoR support or just continue complaining about Oracle because they don't make things for free.
Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans
#49It looks like it's time to start learning vim or another alternative.
Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans
#50The most important parts are:
> To maintain that objective and capitalize on the JDK 7 release themes [...] it is necessary that our engineering resources are committed to [...] NetBeans IDE 7.0. (from http://netbeans.org/community/news/show/1507.html )
and
>However, we strongly encourage our community of NetBeans Ruby users and developers to volunteer to take on development of Ruby on Rails support for the NetBeans IDE. (from http://wiki.netbeans.org/RubySupport )
So it's just a matter of not having enough resources to support everything.
Ruby and RoR is done basically entirely in-house by NetBeans/Oracle so it seems odd that people are enraged that something they provided for free isn't supported any longer due to normal restrictions.
I'm curious if:
1. People outside Oracle will take over RoR development (the community seems too small) OR
2. People will pledge money to keep the plugin maintained (I somehow doubt this but I would like to see it happen).