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Re: World Scientists’ Warning of a Climate Emergency

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Post by Red_Leaves_Flyy »

quest1 wrote: post #12

Articles about Climate Change seem to get very few comments on Hacker News. I think nearly every other article on the home page right now has more comments including an articles about building a flying taxi (47 comments). Honest Question: Why is there seemingly such little interest in what very well could be a huge threat to the survival of humanity? I asked a similar question here - and it got 0 comments! https://ne…

I'm a poor, uneducated, bloke in a high col city. I work crazy hours in a dangerous and traumatizing job for 20k annually. I vote blue, pay my taxes and support local businesses. I do everything I can to have a minimal carbon footprint and am pretty sure I'm doing much better than the average American.

I'm burnt out on climate change, just like every other political topic. Our elected officials are either completely corrupted by corporate lobbyists or sidelined into impotent virtue signaling rubber chickens. No rational decision I make can have any measurable effect on global co2 levels unless I were to invent a profitable carbon capturing process. I want to do more but every 'fight climate change' event I've been to is an effectless feel good circle jerk.

I hope 'we' come up with ways to arrest the progression and reverse most of the damage 'we' have caused to our home. I don't know what value this comment has except that I hope you can rest assured knowing that there are many people ready to pick up the proverbial shovel and get to work.

Re: World Scientists’ Warning of a Climate Emergency

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Post by heisenzombie »

the-dude wrote: post #32
quest1 wrote: post #12

Articles about Climate Change seem to get very few comments on Hacker News. I think nearly every other article on the home page right now has more comments including an articles about building a flying taxi (47 comments). Honest Question: Why is there seemingly such little interest in what very well could be a huge threat to the survival of humanity? I asked a similar question here - and it got 0 comments! https://ne…

Let's please remember you have asked for it. I have lived through : - The end of the cold war, we were all going to die a horrible death, all at once. - Acid rain, all forests would die and consequently we would die too or have a terrible planet - The hole in the ozone layer, we would all get skin cancer ( I can't remember if we would die ) - Tchernobyl with elevated radiation stretching into Europe. Could not eat ap…

Just pick one of your points that seems misunderstood:

> In my time, the hockey-stick would be an indication there is something wrong with the model ( instability ). "Nature does not behave this way"

But the popularly known "hockey stick" graph isn't a model prediction, it's a reconstruction of past and current temperatures. "Nature is currently behaving this way"... And as you point out, that's an indication that there's something wrong -- instability.

Re: World Scientists’ Warning of a Climate Emergency

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Post by the-dude »

excalibur wrote: post #11
the-dude wrote: post #7

Full of Y-axis manipulation. Alarmist language. And what does this mean ? ( from the conclusions ) : "Mitigating and adapting to climate change while honoring the diversity of humans" Did they get bonus points for the diversity angle?

Looks to me like the Y-axes were consistently manipulated, with the sinister aim of fitting all of the data points in some very limited real estate for each graph.

And because there are so many graphs, one would like to correlate.

Which is totally senseless now.

Re: World Scientists’ Warning of a Climate Emergency

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Post by [deleted] »

the-dude wrote: post #32
quest1 wrote: post #12

Articles about Climate Change seem to get very few comments on Hacker News. I think nearly every other article on the home page right now has more comments including an articles about building a flying taxi (47 comments). Honest Question: Why is there seemingly such little interest in what very well could be a huge threat to the survival of humanity? I asked a similar question here - and it got 0 comments! https://ne…

Let's please remember you have asked for it. I have lived through : - The end of the cold war, we were all going to die a horrible death, all at once. - Acid rain, all forests would die and consequently we would die too or have a terrible planet - The hole in the ozone layer, we would all get skin cancer ( I can't remember if we would die ) - Tchernobyl with elevated radiation stretching into Europe. Could not eat ap…

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Re: World Scientists’ Warning of a Climate Emergency

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Post by tempguy9999 »

on_and_off wrote: post #17
quest1 wrote: post #12

Articles about Climate Change seem to get very few comments on Hacker News. I think nearly every other article on the home page right now has more comments including an articles about building a flying taxi (47 comments). Honest Question: Why is there seemingly such little interest in what very well could be a huge threat to the survival of humanity? I asked a similar question here - and it got 0 comments! https://ne…

Another question : what can I do to make things change ?

You could do this https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=what%20can%20I%20do%20about%20...

Or nothing at all. Whichever suits.

Re: World Scientists’ Warning of a Climate Emergency

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Post by jgwil2 »

quest1 wrote: post #12

Articles about Climate Change seem to get very few comments on Hacker News. I think nearly every other article on the home page right now has more comments including an articles about building a flying taxi (47 comments). Honest Question: Why is there seemingly such little interest in what very well could be a huge threat to the survival of humanity? I asked a similar question here - and it got 0 comments! https://ne…

I don't want to sound like I'm trivializing the scope of the problem, but there are articles about it almost every single day. There's only so much we can discuss as few of these seem to present genuinely novel information. At this point we know the science; the main barriers to action are political, and politics are generally considered beyond the scope of this forum. Again, I don't mean to trivialize it as I think that the subject should be getting much more attention, but let's face it, people come here for interesting discussion first and foremost.

Re: World Scientists’ Warning of a Climate Emergency

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Post by the-dude »

heisenzombie wrote: post #43
the-dude wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's please remember you have asked for it. I have lived through : - The end of the cold war, we were all going to die a horrible death, all at once. - Acid rain, all forests would die and consequently we would die too or have a terrible planet - The hole in the ozone layer, we would all get skin cancer ( I can't remember if we would die ) - Tchernobyl with elevated radiation stretching into Europe. Could not eat ap…

Just pick one of your points that seems misunderstood: > In my time, the hockey-stick would be an indication there is something wrong with the model ( instability ). "Nature does not behave this way" But the popularly known "hockey stick" graph isn't a model prediction, it's a reconstruction of past and current temperatures. "Nature is currently behaving this way"... And as you point out, that's an indication that th…

Hey thnx. Just read up and point taken.

Re: World Scientists’ Warning of a Climate Emergency

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Post by WhompingWindows »

quest1 wrote: post #12

Articles about Climate Change seem to get very few comments on Hacker News. I think nearly every other article on the home page right now has more comments including an articles about building a flying taxi (47 comments). Honest Question: Why is there seemingly such little interest in what very well could be a huge threat to the survival of humanity? I asked a similar question here - and it got 0 comments! https://ne…

You're asking why technologists prefer to comment on technology, rather than environmental science.

Look at posts on Tesla, nuclear energy, battery prices, nuclear fusion, all of these fancy subjects: they're much more interesting to HN.

And, of course, I wager most HN commenters would agree there is a crisis -- do they need further evidence of that fact? They want to focus on the solutions, not the latest statistics of how bad the issue is.

Re: World Scientists’ Warning of a Climate Emergency

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Post by excalibur »

the-dude wrote: post #44
excalibur wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks to me like the Y-axes were consistently manipulated, with the sinister aim of fitting all of the data points in some very limited real estate for each graph.

And because there are so many graphs, one would like to correlate. Which is totally senseless now.

...Most of them aren't even measuring the same variable. What were you hoping to correlate? For the handful of pairs that are apples to apples, couldn't you just imagine one being situated above the other?
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