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Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by RenRav » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 7:32 AM UTC

danShumway wrote: post #17

Since the article spends a lot of time talking about Krita, I want to throw some praise its way as well. I moved over to Krita from Clip Studio when I decided to go pure-Linux on all of my computers, not because I thought the software was particularly competitive or good, but because I thought it was the most likely candidate to become competitive and good. Krita still has a lot of rough edges, but I see it on a simi…

>I moved over to Krita from Clip Studio

You just convinced me to try out Krita again. I've had a lot of problems getting away from Clip Studio, each time it felt the options weren't ripe enough yet. I remember trying Krita a very long time ago and it was barebones, but sounds like it's had a lot of good development time.

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by lbeltrame » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 9:57 AM UTC

Confiks wrote: post #18

lbeltrame wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a perfectly fine and useful way to make a cross-platform desktop application. My main problems with Electron are: - The size of the runtime - The fact that every application has to bundle it and it means that multiple Electron applications on the same system do consume a lot of resources if not handled well - The fact that unless you (as a developer) play due diligence, you might distribute your app with a ver…

This comment is so beautifully in-character for the thread, and completely fulfills OPs characterization of people that "do indeed seem to spend a disproportionate amount of time bickering about which popular apps best fulfill their purity tests".

To be honest I spent at best 3 minutes writing that post; compared to the time I put in FOSS projects...

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by mkr-hn » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 1:28 PM UTC

danShumway wrote: post #17

Since the article spends a lot of time talking about Krita, I want to throw some praise its way as well. I moved over to Krita from Clip Studio when I decided to go pure-Linux on all of my computers, not because I thought the software was particularly competitive or good, but because I thought it was the most likely candidate to become competitive and good. Krita still has a lot of rough edges, but I see it on a simi…

I wish there were an open source design app with as much thought behind UX as Krita.

I got Affinity Designer just as soon as I found out about it after many failed attempts to understand Inkscape. There's just no comparison. Inkscape needs to have that moment of focus that got Blender over its UX wall.

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by chrisseaton » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 4:58 PM UTC

andrepd wrote: post #16

chrisseaton wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> about 1,200,000 euros a year, which funds 20 full-time developers Wow not paying them a lot are they.

I would definitely work for blender for 5k a month. That's a top 1% income bracket in many great countries in Europe.

That’s $5k a month to pay all taxes and employee expenses... not $5k take home - you’ll get hardly any of it at the end!

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by mavhc » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 9:47 PM UTC

mixmastamyk wrote: post #40

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine the difference between software distributed as a tarball and the binary package. Both totally work, but one is so much easier to deploy in bulk. (This is obviously a very loose analogy, but I think it's roughly correct)

Exe installers support unattended, headless installs with a command line switch.

But how you do run that command only once on every computer? Including ones that are currently not in the building, or on.

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by ClumsyPilot » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 11:23 PM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #44

andrepd wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would definitely work for blender for 5k a month. That's a top 1% income bracket in many great countries in Europe.

That’s $5k a month to pay all taxes and employee expenses... not $5k take home - you’ll get hardly any of it at the end!

Even so, his point still stands. The upper range of developer salaries in Czech Republic, before taxes, is $3000 to $5000. The country is considered Central Europe.

If you go for Eastern Europe, Hungary/Poland/Ukraine, that's enough to afford the best people.

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by ClumsyPilot » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 11:28 PM UTC

mavhc wrote: post #20

I installed Blender at the school I work at because it had an MSI installer. Did not install Krita because it did not. If you want it to be the default used in schools, make it as easy to deploy as possible. The gimp fork Glimpse is planning an MSI installer, so that'll be installed soon

I am not sure if this is relevant to you, but Krita is available from MS Store, so you could get automatic install and auto-updates.

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by mixmastamyk » Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 11:34 PM UTC

mavhc wrote: post #45

mixmastamyk wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exe installers support unattended, headless installs with a command line switch.

But how you do run that command only once on every computer? Including ones that are currently not in the building, or on.

Same way as anything, use group policy or a login script that checks first.

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by ognarb » Sun, Oct 27, 2019, 12:08 PM UTC

ReD_CoDE wrote: post #35

This is the first time I hear Krita but I support all good open-source projects like Blender What I like in Blender, except its invaluable community, is its UX, they follow a good logic in interfaces. If someone is familiar with 3Ds Max or Maya, in less than an hour can understand the whole software and how to work with it even without any help or tutorial However, I'm not in the VFX industry and I'm an architect and…

This is something I really love with Blender and other Free Software project. You can create new plugins to extends the scope of the project.

Btw did you know that the icons in blenderbim.org homepage are icons from the Breeze icons theme developed by the KDE community (the community behind Krita)?

Re: Back from the Blender Conference

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Post by andrepd » Sun, Oct 27, 2019, 11:00 PM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #44

andrepd wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would definitely work for blender for 5k a month. That's a top 1% income bracket in many great countries in Europe.

That’s $5k a month to pay all taxes and employee expenses... not $5k take home - you’ll get hardly any of it at the end!

Income tax (at some bracket) is a percent of income. What does it matter if it's "5k to cover taxes" lol, it's not like its a flat expense that 5k may or may not cover.

Even 3000€ or even 2500€ take home pay per month would let me live a very good life (for me) in a sunny, safe, beautiful place in Europe. All the while I'm working for a free software project, one which I'm a fan of (not working to make my boss rich, not inventing better ways to make people click on ads). What else could I possibly ask for.