I guess it's not that important as this article doesn't display a scrollbar either. /s
It mentions that at the bottom actually.
Who Killed the Scrollbar?
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#42> 2. No flipping way to quickly navigate to the top or bottom of the post. I don't know what the state of this is on Android, but iOS 13 lets you grab the scrollbar and go immediately to wherever you want in a document. The scrollbar doesn't show up by default, so it's a 2-step operation. Scroll a bit to make the scroll indicator appear, then grab it and scroll faster. Works well but I doubt many people are aware of…
I did not know this. Another way to quickly get to the top of tables in iOS, assuming you're in an app, is to double tap the button of whatever page you're in in the navigation bar at the bottom. Some apps somehow disable this but it's the default behavior built into the OS.
Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you share a webpage that actually hides scrollbars? Aside from having a crazy amount of padding and shoving a scrollbar behind some div, how can you actually hide scrollbars cross browser?
It's literally one line in CSS to hide scrollbars. You can also design the page to endlessly ask for new content as one scrolls, but never display a scrollbar...
In the popular browsers, how do we kill this misfeature?
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#44I guess it's not that important as this article doesn't display a scrollbar either. /s
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#45Surely this is related to a concurrent thread
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21353920
It's the flat design trend. It is unintuitive by design.
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#46For me the worst example is Google Play Music on my phone. The scroll bar is there, but when you first open the app it's hidden underneath the pane at the top of the screen - you have to scroll down by dragging the window before you can even see it. Then if the window contents are long enough, as in when you're looking at the entire song list, you can't actually grab the scroll indicator unless you get really lucky - the sensitive part of the bar is much smaller than the visual indicator.
It flipping drives me mad.
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#47I actually think he's making a big deal out of nothing on this one. If you have a site that gets long, it would be smart to create some kind of system for jumping between sections, or scrolling up a great deal. Like Google Docs does when editing a long document. I can jump between bookmarks and pages with the "knob" on the right. But most websites don't need anything like this. It should be the job of the developer o…
I know it sounds crazy, but what if there were an ubiquitous solution that everyone was already familiar with and had used many times in the past, a solution that required little thought from developers and behaved consistently everywhere?
Something like... well, a scroll bar, at least before devs started being cute and hiding them for the sole purpose of aesthetics.
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#48Flipping flip i agree! It's not just scrollbars. I hate the mobilification of everything. I hate that desktop designs are imitating the nonexistent information density of phones. Bring back menubars, and extensive left-hand hierarchies . Even in mobile, it's more practical for me. I like a full page where i can zoom in and out faster between its parts rather than scrolling up and down all the time (I browse reddit in…
I was pretty blown away to see that Dropbox's hamburger menu opens to take over the entire screen, including on desktop. In other words, they only considered mobile in their design. You can try it even if you don't have an account, just go to dropbox.com and click the hamburger in the upper right.
How is that not pancakes? But ye, it's way to big. If they have to do it fullscreen, atleast put the menu options in the centre of the screen not downwards ...
Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?
#49Flipping flip i agree! It's not just scrollbars. I hate the mobilification of everything. I hate that desktop designs are imitating the nonexistent information density of phones. Bring back menubars, and extensive left-hand hierarchies . Even in mobile, it's more practical for me. I like a full page where i can zoom in and out faster between its parts rather than scrolling up and down all the time (I browse reddit in…
Incessant hamburgerization is something that I also find annoying. Any time I have to set up Firefox, the very first thing I do is enable the menu bar. My desktop isn't a tablet - stop trying to make it one!
Agree! "Mobile First" design thinking should not mean "Mobile Only." What was supposed to be a call to consider all of the devices your users may be utilizing, it just transferred the preference from one type of device to another.
Why can't we just have sites/apps/SPAs/whatever that look and work well on whatever device they supposedly support?
Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?
#50Flipping flip i agree! It's not just scrollbars. I hate the mobilification of everything. I hate that desktop designs are imitating the nonexistent information density of phones. Bring back menubars, and extensive left-hand hierarchies . Even in mobile, it's more practical for me. I like a full page where i can zoom in and out faster between its parts rather than scrolling up and down all the time (I browse reddit in…
But our A/B testing shows a 5% increase in engagement by making it crappy.