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Omniviolence Is Coming and the World Isn’t Ready

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Re: Omniviolence Is Coming and the World Isn’t Ready

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Post by cwkoss »

The silver lining of deepfakes is that now everyone has plausible deniability for any 'leaked nudes': anyone with a gaming computer and a lot of free time can put anyone else's head onto a pornographic actor's body.

Within a decade, 'nudes being leaked' will no longer be controversial or damaging because they'll cost a couple hundred dollars or less to manufacture and won't have credibility.

I'd argue that one of the best things a 'chaotic good' actor could do today to fight revenge porn is to manufacture a huge quantity of deepfake porn of random targets and release it, so speeding along this process.

Re: Omniviolence Is Coming and the World Isn’t Ready

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Post by jorprp93j »

defen wrote: post #9

> In this scenario, the K/K ratio could be perhaps 3/1,000,000, assuming a 10-percent accuracy and only a single one-gram shaped charge per drone. So you "only" need 10 million drones and 10 million grams of plastic explosive? An attack of that magnitude probably requires the resources of a nation-state, so I doubt it will happen. Targeted assassinations seem more plausible.

Pretty sure the scale is exaggerated to help emotionally highlight the concept. A nation state level scenario to act as an “upper bound” since that’s currently the only organized human social structure that could acquire the materials at that scale.

Of course smaller attacks using the same technique can be emotionally devastating if not as mathematically impressive

Re: Omniviolence Is Coming and the World Isn’t Ready

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Post by 6gvONxR4sf7o »

cwkoss wrote: post #41

The silver lining of deepfakes is that now everyone has plausible deniability for any 'leaked nudes': anyone with a gaming computer and a lot of free time can put anyone else's head onto a pornographic actor's body. Within a decade, 'nudes being leaked' will no longer be controversial or damaging because they'll cost a couple hundred dollars or less to manufacture and won't have credibility. I'd argue that one of the…

We already have photoshop and this isn't the case.

Re: Omniviolence Is Coming and the World Isn’t Ready

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Post by scottlocklin »

"Will emerging technologies make the state system obsolete? It’s hard to see why not."

Yeah, it's hard to see why not if your view of technology is something like that of medieval demonology, which appears to be the thesis of this article.

Meanwhile, in reality land, you can make explosives and poison gas out of stuff in your kitchen, automobiles put a ridiculous amount of kinetic energy in the hands of individuals, this has been true for 100 years, and somehow "the state system" has done just fine; strengthened even in that period of time.

Also Bostrom is a nincompoop and no article that mentions him deserves to be taken seriously.

Re: Omniviolence Is Coming and the World Isn’t Ready

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Post by nyolfen »

cwkoss wrote: post #41

The silver lining of deepfakes is that now everyone has plausible deniability for any 'leaked nudes': anyone with a gaming computer and a lot of free time can put anyone else's head onto a pornographic actor's body. Within a decade, 'nudes being leaked' will no longer be controversial or damaging because they'll cost a couple hundred dollars or less to manufacture and won't have credibility. I'd argue that one of the…

you should probably read past the first paragraph

Re: Omniviolence Is Coming and the World Isn’t Ready

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Post by DSingularity »

trentnix wrote: post #6

Bostrom is well-aware of the downsides—corrupt actors in a state could exploit this surveillance for totalitarian ends, or hackers could blackmail unsuspecting victims. Yet the fact is that it may still be a better option than suffering one global catastrophe after another. Aspiring fascists are always trying to save us from ourselves.

I don't like this "panopticon" but I don't think suggesting it as a solution makes the author an "aspiring" fascist.

Re: Omniviolence Is Coming and the World Isn’t Ready

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Post by nyolfen »

delinka wrote: post #19
sushisource wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you actually watch the original video the drones aren't intended to survive.

OK, drones are cheap. How about that projectile firing apparatus?

shaped charges are made of a metal cylinder with explosives inside and a concave copper cone on one end. insurgents can and do manufacture them. the explosives and detonation rigging are the only part that has a meaningful cost, and if you're talking about one gram of explosive that isn't much.

Re: Omniviolence Is Coming and the World Isn’t Ready

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Post by subroutine »

chongli wrote: post #39
kevingadd wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're disposable. They don't need to take anything.

And shaped charges are entirely besides the point. They could instead carry a small auto-injector (like an EpiPen) containing a few mg of ricin [1]. It'd be like getting stung by an insect. Within days the symptoms would start to appear. If this happened to even a few hundred people, let alone thousands, then hospitals would be completely overwhelmed and people would be dying everywhere. It would cause a mass panic.…

A few hundred is within the scope of what people are doing with conventional explosives. The article is talking about the ability to target millions of people.

I just don't believe we will see a day when tiny drones with epipens pose a greater threat than guns.

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