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Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Re: Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Post by EliRivers »

ronnier wrote: post #35

The world is changing rapidly. The magic year of 2012 is when Tinder was release and then grew rapidly. Move forward to today: a large percentage of men are totally removed from the dating market (not by choice), they do not have sex, they have no hope of getting into a relationship. The reverse is not true for women, who have countless options and can at any time open their phone and have their pick of men. In gener…

a large percentage of men are totally removed from the dating market, they do not have sex, they have no hope of getting into a relationship

Well perhaps if they were in the dating market, they'd have a bit more hope of a relationship. This is like not buying a lottery ticket and then complaining about not winning. This is both true - if you don't enter a competition you simply can't win - and unpopular.

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Post by pharrington »

"The CDC attributes the recent surge in STDs to decreased condom use, increased drug use, poverty and cuts to prevention programs run by state and local health departments. In recent years, the agency reports, more than half of local STD programs have experienced budget cuts that led to clinic closures, as well as reduced screening and patient follow-up.

Federal spending has also been curtailed.

“In the federal government, there is one dedicated STD funding line, and that is the line item in the appropriation bill funding the division of STD prevention at the CDC,” said David Harvey, executive director of the National Coalition of STD Directors. “That appropriation has been whittled away over the last 18 years.”"

Seems we know what the solution to the puzzle is.

Re: Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Post by myspy »

ronnier wrote: post #35

The world is changing rapidly. The magic year of 2012 is when Tinder was release and then grew rapidly. Move forward to today: a large percentage of men are totally removed from the dating market (not by choice), they do not have sex, they have no hope of getting into a relationship. The reverse is not true for women, who have countless options and can at any time open their phone and have their pick of men. In gener…

Well then, time to relocate and try the good old speaking to a girl instead of going through an app.

Edit: woah, that's going down fast, what's the matter here? Are you expecting that girls should come where you live and do as you please?

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Post by [deleted] »

ronnier wrote: post #35

The world is changing rapidly. The magic year of 2012 is when Tinder was release and then grew rapidly. Move forward to today: a large percentage of men are totally removed from the dating market (not by choice), they do not have sex, they have no hope of getting into a relationship. The reverse is not true for women, who have countless options and can at any time open their phone and have their pick of men. In gener…

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Re: Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Post by wolco »

So less young men are having sex but the ones that are, are spreading more diseases.

So everyone having sex with fewer partners is better overall than less people having sex with more partners.

Makes me think society is getting less sexual which is turning into a major health problem.

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Post by [deleted] »

ronnier wrote: post #35

The world is changing rapidly. The magic year of 2012 is when Tinder was release and then grew rapidly. Move forward to today: a large percentage of men are totally removed from the dating market (not by choice), they do not have sex, they have no hope of getting into a relationship. The reverse is not true for women, who have countless options and can at any time open their phone and have their pick of men. In gener…

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Re: Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Post by buboard »

catalogia wrote: post #33
buboard wrote: post #25

What an interesting X-Ray of the sexual marketplace in the graph. Apparently young men have less than half infections as women (i.e. less than half sexual partners than women do - all things being equal) , but the situation tapers in later age and slightly reverses in the 40s when men have slightly more sexual partners. Other than that, the data shows that the sexless generation is driving itself to extinction. That'…

> " Apparently young men have less than half infections as women (i.e. less than half sexual partners than women do - all things being equal)" All things certainly aren't equal though. There is a very large asymmetry in the chance to contract some STDs (specifically HIV, maybe others as well but I'm not sure.) > In general, receptive sex is riskier than insertive sex. This means that women have a higher risk for gett…

The graph is about Chlamydia though.

(also the factors you mention wouldn't explain the age asymmetries)

Re: Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Post by aianus »

chmod775 wrote: post #20
TimTheTinker wrote: post #11

> Something changed starting around 2012 One hypothesis to consider: the Affordable Care Act which became effective in 2010. It may be that somehow the healthcare changes that followed had an adverse effect, and that it took 2 years for increased infection rates to compound and begin to be reported.

Do you have any suggestion as to how that piece of legislation could possibly have an impact on how much sex young people have and with what partners? I fail to see any kind of chain of events here where one might lead to the other. "We wouldn't have had sex if it weren't for Obamacare." doesn't exactly seem like something you'd be likely to hear.

Obamacare made non-barrier birth control free so it's possible that some people switched from condoms and were therefore more likely to contract STDs.

(I just made this up as a suggestion, I have no evidence this actually happened)

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Post by refurb »

pharrington wrote: post #42

"The CDC attributes the recent surge in STDs to decreased condom use, increased drug use, poverty and cuts to prevention programs run by state and local health departments. In recent years, the agency reports, more than half of local STD programs have experienced budget cuts that led to clinic closures, as well as reduced screening and patient follow-up. Federal spending has also been curtailed. “In the federal gover…

A gov’t agency telling the public they just need more money?

Color me shocked.

Re: Public-Health Puzzle: Young People Having Less Sex, Contracting More STDs

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Post by sho »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #28
buboard wrote: post #25

What an interesting X-Ray of the sexual marketplace in the graph. Apparently young men have less than half infections as women (i.e. less than half sexual partners than women do - all things being equal) , but the situation tapers in later age and slightly reverses in the 40s when men have slightly more sexual partners. Other than that, the data shows that the sexless generation is driving itself to extinction. That'…

Likely because men’s sexual and partner value goes up as they age, where women peak around 21 and rapidly decline after 30. This is based on Okcupid and other dating marketplace data.

Looks like you brought facts to a virtue-fight!
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