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Re: Iraq introduces nightly internet curfew
#422019-10-09 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/iraq-protests-latest-... >At least 110 people have been killed and more than 6,000 wounded in Baghdad and in the south, since security forces started cracking down on demonstrators. And the whole world is "outraged" about HK. Here on this thread the other posters are making jokes. If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no…
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's racist as fuck.
Is it? Humans are tribalistic. Family, town, sports team, etc. The further out you go, the less typical people associate "them" as "us." I'm not sure that it is non-westerner's race nor skin color as much as distance, culture, and lack of media exposure. Doesn't make it right, but I'm not sure it is racist.
Sure, it's trivially easy to slip into tribalistic behaviour. That doesn't make it right, decent or defensible. We should aspire to be better than our unchecked nature; not use it to excuse our failings.
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#442019-10-09 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/iraq-protests-latest-... >At least 110 people have been killed and more than 6,000 wounded in Baghdad and in the south, since security forces started cracking down on demonstrators. And the whole world is "outraged" about HK. Here on this thread the other posters are making jokes. If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no…
"If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no one gives a shit about Yemen." Of course the world wouldn't give a shit: they're poor, badly clothed, darker skinned and (oh the horror!) even muslim, and when they finally all die their territory and oil will be up for grabs by the west. (undisclaimer: that wasn't a joke)
Isn't it logical (or at least understandable) to care more about the people who share the same cultural values and historical bagage than about other cultures which are harder to understand and relate to? Why should people care equally much about every single culture on earth, regardless of how much it relates to their own situation and life?
Re: Iraq introduces nightly internet curfew
#452019-10-09 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/iraq-protests-latest-... >At least 110 people have been killed and more than 6,000 wounded in Baghdad and in the south, since security forces started cracking down on demonstrators. And the whole world is "outraged" about HK. Here on this thread the other posters are making jokes. If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no…
I have hundreds of products in my house that say "Made in Hong Kong".
I don't have a single product in my house that says "Made in Iraq".
It's not strange that North America doesn't care much about Iraqi plight, as we have next to no relationship with them or their people.
Same as we all cannot afford to cry over every single other person's mother and father passing away, but we cry over our own parents passing.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most people don't give a shit in the case of Iraq and Yemen because they consider both sides to be equally as bad.
I don't see how you consider people protesting against "corruption, unemployment and poor public services" to be bad.
Because when the groups leading the protests were in power they were just corrupt, social conditions were just as bad and they were as brutal and tyrannical as those now in power.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
"If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no one gives a shit about Yemen." Of course the world wouldn't give a shit: they're poor, badly clothed, darker skinned and (oh the horror!) even muslim, and when they finally all die their territory and oil will be up for grabs by the west. (undisclaimer: that wasn't a joke)
Isn't it logical (or at least understandable) to care more about the people who share the same cultural values and historical bagage than about other cultures which are harder to understand and relate to? Why should people care equally much about every single culture on earth, regardless of how much it relates to their own situation and life?
On an individual level that might be understandable, but on a larger scale, you end up excluding large groups and declaring them effectively less valuable, second class people.
Ultimately, wherever people are born, wherever they live, they are still people. They're not much different from us, they're just living in different circumstances. We could have been born there. Some sympathy is absolutely justified.
Re: Iraq introduces nightly internet curfew
#482019-10-09 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/iraq-protests-latest-... >At least 110 people have been killed and more than 6,000 wounded in Baghdad and in the south, since security forces started cracking down on demonstrators. And the whole world is "outraged" about HK. Here on this thread the other posters are making jokes. If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no…
"If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no one gives a shit about Yemen." Of course the world wouldn't give a shit: they're poor, badly clothed, darker skinned and (oh the horror!) even muslim, and when they finally all die their territory and oil will be up for grabs by the west. (undisclaimer: that wasn't a joke)
You make it sound as if this line of thought only happened in the world outside. But it’s evident internally where I guess it matters, not caring about your own neighbor is leading to this very violence you speak against.
You’re saying world does not care. Let’s suppose that’s true. However, locals aren’t caring and are shooting each other. Who is worse in that scale, the outsider or the very locals are obviously are very uncaring about each other?
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see how you consider people protesting against "corruption, unemployment and poor public services" to be bad.
Because when the groups leading the protests were in power they were just corrupt, social conditions were just as bad and they were as brutal and tyrannical as those now in power.
Who's leading the protest? My understanding was that it is leaderless.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see how you consider people protesting against "corruption, unemployment and poor public services" to be bad.
Because when the groups leading the protests were in power they were just corrupt, social conditions were just as bad and they were as brutal and tyrannical as those now in power.
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