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The specialized services will be less work to maintain for developers, and will offer unique additional features that Amazon will have a hard time keeping up with if they try to spread themselves too thin.
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no, with different limitations I believe, e.g. no cool google storage, but only SDB or RDB (which may be ok anyway)
If you can use JDBC or SQL in your Java app with these Amazon solutions and not have to learn a new datastore API that's a pretty huge advantage.
The real question is: can this offering compete with the specialized PaaS services we have seen emerge in the last year - heroku, GAE, djangy.djangozoom/eldairon, various node.js services, phpfog, etc... The specialized services will be less work to maintain for developers, and will offer unique additional features that Amazon will have a hard time keeping up with if they try to spread themselves too thin.
It seems likely that, not only can Amazon compete, but could probably dominate. Heroku is a big outlier and really the first to demonstrate that the need/power of a PaaS. It doesn't look like there's anything nearly as mature for Python. Don't know about other languages/frameworks, but if it's like Python, Amazon has a big opportunity here.
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no, with different limitations I believe, e.g. no cool google storage, but only SDB or RDB (which may be ok anyway)
I agree. It's definitely meh without a useful and truly scalable database. That's the hard part. SimpleDB isn't particularly useful, and RDB isn't particularly scalable.
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If you can use JDBC or SQL in your Java app with these Amazon solutions and not have to learn a new datastore API that's a pretty huge advantage.
Sure... until your database is your bottleneck.
The real question is: can this offering compete with the specialized PaaS services we have seen emerge in the last year - heroku, GAE, djangy.djangozoom/eldairon, various node.js services, phpfog, etc... The specialized services will be less work to maintain for developers, and will offer unique additional features that Amazon will have a hard time keeping up with if they try to spread themselves too thin.
Because Iwork mainly in Python, I just checked out the offerings you mentioned for Python that aren't GAE. Both Djangy and Djangozoom are in private beta still, so I can't imagine they're that far along. Eldarion doesn't look self serve, although maybe that's just their site. It seems likely that, not only can Amazon compete, but could probably dominate. Heroku is a big outlier and really the first to demonstrate tha…
I've had the opportunity to play around with andrewgodwin's ep.io and while also in private beta, is worth some attention.
The real question is: can this offering compete with the specialized PaaS services we have seen emerge in the last year - heroku, GAE, djangy.djangozoom/eldairon, various node.js services, phpfog, etc... The specialized services will be less work to maintain for developers, and will offer unique additional features that Amazon will have a hard time keeping up with if they try to spread themselves too thin.
Because Iwork mainly in Python, I just checked out the offerings you mentioned for Python that aren't GAE. Both Djangy and Djangozoom are in private beta still, so I can't imagine they're that far along. Eldarion doesn't look self serve, although maybe that's just their site. It seems likely that, not only can Amazon compete, but could probably dominate. Heroku is a big outlier and really the first to demonstrate tha…
For python hosting, GAE is probably the only real competition at this point. There is a HUGE opportunity to eliminate sysadmin work on all these stacks for smaller developers especially. I am just not sure if Amazon will domiate both the infrastructure and platform layer.
I think smaller developers stand to reap huge productivity benefits from easier to use and more feature-rich platforms such as Heroku.
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you'll still have to build your application in such a way that supports these new nodes, though. Sessions, load balancing etc. a "true" cloud would just handle all that stuff transparently.
Is there a "cloud" environment in which designing your application like this isn't necessary?
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Is there a "cloud" environment in which designing your application like this isn't necessary?
Google AppEngine