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Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by mcny »

tyingq wrote: post #23
nradov wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as Google owns the mobile OS, Microsoft will never be able to maintain any significant control over the app model or user experience.

Maybe a veiled hint at doing something like the Amazon Fire Phone, only more thoughtfully?

Personally, the Fire phone's biggest folly was price, not lack of Google Play.

I know I am being irrational but my perspective is very different for a phone introduced at $500+ vs one at sub $200.

If they could find a way to eat the losses and sell it at sub $200, a lot of people would buy the phone. That and nobody asked for the weird 3D view thing or whatever it was called.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by djsumdog »

vidanay wrote: post #2

Now we can all be 10 X developers!

Slightly off topic, but with Android going back to version numbers instead of desert names, the next version will be Android 10 .. so we'll have Windows 10, macOS X (10.something) and Android 10. Arguably, Apple has been in the 10 camp longest.

Windows 10 X just sounds like reverse macOS (MacOS X 10.x)

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by ndespres »

evv wrote: post #32
dantle wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The parent story isn't about some version of Android. Windows 10 X is a real version of Windows, based on the NT Kernel.

The reporting around this new device is certainly confusing.. "This product brings together the absolute best of Microsoft, and we're partnering with Google to bring the absolute best of Android in one product," Microsoft Product Chief Panos Panay said. "This is industry pushing technology." From https://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-unveils-999-surface-pro-... Edit: I'm realizing there are multiple new devices. The Su…

These guys just can not figure out a branding/marketing scheme that won't require overexplaining each time to figure out, and confusion by the consumer. What is a "Surface" if it's really 2 different things, with very similar names, that do completely different things and run incompatible operating systems?

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by coldtea »

KingMachiavelli wrote: post #30
nradov wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as Google owns the mobile OS, Microsoft will never be able to maintain any significant control over the app model or user experience.

Clearly Microsoft disagrees. They are putting tremendous effort into using chromium for their new Edge browser so I would have to assume they would put even more resources into customizing Android to their liking. Perhaps on a technical level, chromium-Edge will 'feel' like any other chromium based browser and android-Windows will 'feel' like any other Android based OS BUT for normal & business users - there is a lot…

>Clearly Microsoft disagrees

And clearly they are in the wrong, but they can't do anything about it anyway, as their platform efforts on mobile faltered.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by School-Cotton »

djsumdog wrote: post #42
vidanay wrote: post #2

Now we can all be 10 X developers!

Slightly off topic, but with Android going back to version numbers instead of desert names, the next version will be Android 10 .. so we'll have Windows 10, macOS X (10.something) and Android 10. Arguably, Apple has been in the 10 camp longest. Windows 10 X just sounds like reverse macOS (MacOS X 10.x)

Minor nitpick - macOS no longer has an "X" in its name. The latest version is just macOS 10.14.6.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by djsumdog »

kbumsik wrote: post #29

It reminds me how the first Surface Pro looked like. It was incomplete and useless device so it didn't go well. However, Microsoft didn't give up. After three iterations Microsoft finally made Surface Pro 3, which was the first useful Windows tablet with a cleverly designed keyboard and a great 3:2 ratio screen. The surface line finally took off and third-parties began to make "surface-like" products since then. Micr…

Actually, it reminds me of that pre-iPad Microsoft project that they killed off to focus on Windows 8. It was almost production ready too; had dual screens and there was a neat video of how the stylus interacted with it. I can't remember what it was called though and can't seem to find it searching DDG/Google.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by swiley »

mc32 wrote: post #11

One thing I’m looking forward to in regular laptops is handling of change in monitor hardware state when docking and undocking. It can take a while for the system to figure things out, other times it’s a hard reset... all that said, it’s handled better than mosx which has a frustrating relationship with multiple external displays.

If you want speed just run Linux and use the xrandr command. If you use a "pager" program (google virtual desktops vs workspaces) your windows probably don't even have to move around.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by codeulike »

tvanantwerp wrote: post #10

Meanwhile, I'm still dealing with random scaling bugs from connecting external monitors with lower pixel density to my high pixel density Surface Pro devices. Only thing that really "fixes" it is setting a custom scaling factor of 100% and reducing the Surface's resolution to make it still readable. (Then I end up with black bars along the edges, as the lower resolution options aren't the same 3:2 aspect ratio as the…

Wait, I do this all the time with my Surface Pro 3. It just kinda works, in Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. My settings are 'extend these displays', scaling 175% on the Surface and 100% on the regular monitor.

RDP is a bit trickier if you're connecting to an old-ish server but I found a way round that too.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by JadeNB »

kbumsik wrote: post #29

It reminds me how the first Surface Pro looked like. It was incomplete and useless device so it didn't go well. However, Microsoft didn't give up. After three iterations Microsoft finally made Surface Pro 3, which was the first useful Windows tablet with a cleverly designed keyboard and a great 3:2 ratio screen. The surface line finally took off and third-parties began to make "surface-like" products since then. Micr…

> Microsoft is not like Apple. They don't make perfect products at the beginning

For example, perfect butterfly keyboards.

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