Ah, looks like Microsoft finally got around to producing some more gimmicks.
The catastrophe that is the Samsung folding phone didn’t send a strong enough message to the industry I guess.
Microsoft announces new Surface Duo phone
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#43I'm so glad Microsoft is trying again in the Phone space. I wish Amazon would try again, too. It's nice to have choices.
It's an Android, so no new choice here, sadly. Google may even be insisting on Google Search as default, given the search bar's prominent visibility in Microsoft's promo material with the Google Search logo.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Speaking of the Surface Book, my aging MacBook needs replacing, and I was interested in seeing a Surface Book 3 release as an alternative. Sad it didn't materialise.
The Surface Laptop 3 looks very compelling though, especially with the Ryzen option.
The Surface Laptop unfortunately doesn't work as tablet.
I'm very "disappointented" by the event, as it seems that the Surface Book series is dead.
If this is the case, I guess that the reasoning has been that who want a powerful machine just buy a regular laptop.
It's a shame for those who use the SB both as tablet and dev machine (which is the intended audience). At this point, it's not sure how the SPX will be usable as dev machine (e.g. I guess it will have relatively little memory). The vanilla SP is an alternative, but 12.3" is small for me (and can't imagine for those who own a 15" SB).
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
It looks nice in theory. I’d like to see it also support some version of win10. I might get one regardless, but if it ran win10, it’d be a slam dunk.
Google introduced project Treble in Android O and P to allow Android to work against a HAL to basically decouple the underlying Linux Kernel and drivers from the over arching Android Framework. There was speculation that this would enable Google to swap out the Linux Kernel for Fuschia when it becomes available. The Windows NT Kernel has had a HAL and the ability to do this since it's inception in the 90s. Microsoft…
IIRC WSL1 used a kernel compatibility layer, WSL2 uses a virtual machine [with the albeit minimal but very real overhead] so I find difficult to imagine they running android on top of NT [whatever they're calling the kernel nowadays]
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#46> The Surface Duo features two 5.6-inch displays that can rotate 360 degrees, allowing it to be fully unfolded as a miniature unfold to 8.3-inch tablet. Unless I'm misunderstanding, it seems like you wouldn't ever need more than 270 degrees.
Needs 360 degrees to get to this.
https://andro4all.com/files/2019/10/Microsoft-Surface-Duo.jp...
From this:
https://livecenterimages.azureedge.net/livecenter-images/lci...
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#47Personally I don't see the attractive in dual screen devices unless we reach Westworld-like devices that are super thin and can go from phone to large tablet that can potentially replace a laptop.
Otherwise it's just a thick phone that converts to 2 phones...
In case anyone hasn't seen Westworld: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3dD7jOLaes
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#48Ah, looks like Microsoft finally got around to producing some more gimmicks. The catastrophe that is the Samsung folding phone didn’t send a strong enough message to the industry I guess.
The MS device is a foldable phone with two screens, not a foldable screen. Samsung's (initial?) failure is irrelevant here.
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#49I'm so glad Microsoft is trying again in the Phone space. I wish Amazon would try again, too. It's nice to have choices.
No. Microsoft is much better at handling an ecosystem than Amazon. As far as I can tell, MS is using standard Android with Google Play Services(?) Amazon was trying to create its own ecosystem.
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#50I'm so glad Microsoft is trying again in the Phone space. I wish Amazon would try again, too. It's nice to have choices.
It's an Android, so no new choice here, sadly. Google may even be insisting on Google Search as default, given the search bar's prominent visibility in Microsoft's promo material with the Google Search logo.
According to a consent decree with the EU, they can’t insist on it there. They could in the US I guess.