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Before 737 Max, Boeing’s Flight-Control System Included Key Safeguards

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Re: Before 737 Max, Boeing’s Flight-Control System Included Key Safeguards

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have something I can read on that "may"? I don't disagree that the throttles weren't moved, but the part about it maybe having saved them is new information.

I'll give you the short explanation and then an article reference supporting. That might give you other terms to further research. The trim is driven by a jackscrew. That jackscrew is driven by a mechanism in the cockpit (a large double wheel near each flight crew station). At low and moderate airspeeds, the jackscrew turns relatively easily. At high airspeeds and low elevator deflections (meaning "when the aircraft…

Thanks for the detailed reply mate, really appreciate it :)

Re: Before 737 Max, Boeing’s Flight-Control System Included Key Safeguards

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But presumably the pilots of both downed MAXs were pulling back as hard as possible.

Even more than that, you pick up speed due to the nose down configuration. This means the forces on the control surfaces are so great that you can no longer manually trim via the trim wheels. This was, apparently, a well known handling characteristic of the 737, with original versions describing a "roller coaster" maneuver where you dive briefly to relieve the forces on the control surfaces and incrementally trim. Un…

The "roller coaster" manoeuver: It's like reeling in a marlin, but everyone's life is dependent upon your success.

Re: Before 737 Max, Boeing’s Flight-Control System Included Key Safeguards

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Moderators: please add [paywalled] or [$] to paywalled content so I can ignore instead of wasting time. Thanks.

If there's a workaround, it's ok. Users usually post workarounds in the thread. They did in this one.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989

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