It would be interesting to see if Apple tries any kinds of explicit legal actions to shut it down. But this won't be seen much pretty to DoJ which seeks more evidence for an ongoing antitrust investigation. I expect them to silently implement a developer policy to fix "a security hole" without much explanations. This has always been Apple's way to tighten its control on their ecosystem and drive out any potential competitors.
AltStore: Alternative iOS app store that doesn't require a jailbreak
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Re: AltStore: Alternative iOS app store that doesn't require a jailbreak
#42Isn’t apple just gonna blacklist this somehow? I get that you’re signing the app, but it’s definitely against the TOS in some obscure way. It’s not as though they won’t know which Apple IDs are logged in to the phones this gets installed on, regardless of signing certs. Edit: I do really like this though, it is a clever way out of the walled garden! I’ve used TestFlight to load stuff like ish on my phone, and would c…
If Apple is tracking IDs how is that not anti-privacy? In fact arguably they should implement signed reciepts so they don't have to track which apps you own. As it is they know all the apps you own, and probably even when and how often you run them. Instead they could send you a cryptographically signed receipt and then not actually keep track of which apps you own. When you want an update they verify the receipt. Th…
Re: AltStore: Alternative iOS app store that doesn't require a jailbreak
#43iTunes WiFi sync is going to be deprecated, because iTunes is being deprecated.
The sync management functions were moved to Finder, they are not going away.
This is something I’ve been wondering about. Where are they moving to in Windows? Will I need a hackintosh VM for my WiFi based backups?
Re: AltStore: Alternative iOS app store that doesn't require a jailbreak
#44All the other comments are focusing on the Apple angle, but I want to comment on how amazing the developer, Riley, is. I've seen him working on this project (Delta and the AltStore) for four or five years. It's a project he's passionate about, and he's building it for himself, not to try and make money. (In fact, he's turned down offers from startups and top tech companies to work on this). More than almost anyone el…
That is good. But I have question when he started on Altstore
Is he working on Altstore for 4-5 years? I do not think it was possible 4-5years before.
I think apple release free signing without Apple Developer Account in July 2016.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think if moderation of the apps you can install on iOS was going to become a legal issue, we would have already been there. The reality is, if Apple wrongs you, you can walk into Best Buy or whatever and buy and Android phone. The smartphone ecosystem is very healthy, there are plenty of opportunities for everyone to get exactly what they want.
If you buy an Android you can no longer commuicate with all your friends using iMessages. SO no, not quite "plenty of opportunities for everyone to get exactly what they want."
This is why its important to encourage the use of Libre alternatives including Matrix & Signal.
iMessage is the new Blackberry Messenger, it will have significant staying power, but walled garden messaging platforms don't last forever!
Re: AltStore: Alternative iOS app store that doesn't require a jailbreak
#46> Testut told The Verge that measures to block AltStore would break key functionality for developers or iTunes syncing. No, it won't. Keep in mind that we didn't have the 7 day side-load for free apple ids prior to 2015[1]. All apple has to do is disable sideloading for free accounts. I imagine it won't impact many legitimate developers, who probably have paid developer accounts anyways. [1] https://9to5mac.com/2015/…
They could simply limit it to one account and three apps. It’s just an oversight.
Also I didn’t check out how this store works but if you have to reinstall every few weeks I imagine it gets tedious pretty quickly.
Re: AltStore: Alternative iOS app store that doesn't require a jailbreak
#47Apple can and should block this by fixing the bug allowing rotating provisioning profiles to bypass the three app limit.
Nor do I expect they would or should try to "let this slide" due to the fear of antitrust investigation. Hacker News loves to deploy the walled ecosystem FUD, but given the iOS security model has proven itself technically absent any consideration of trustbusting, I expect them to stand on their convictions and fight the antitrust battle head on, not death by a 1000 pinpricks.
Encourage folks to learn more technically and use the developer tooling as is, then you can sideload whatever you want!!! Beyond that, it's not that hard: Don't abuse developer-facing tooling & workflows to allow consumers to do stupid things.
Re: AltStore: Alternative iOS app store that doesn't require a jailbreak
#48All the other comments are focusing on the Apple angle, but I want to comment on how amazing the developer, Riley, is. I've seen him working on this project (Delta and the AltStore) for four or five years. It's a project he's passionate about, and he's building it for himself, not to try and make money. (In fact, he's turned down offers from startups and top tech companies to work on this). More than almost anyone el…
That is good. But I have question when he started on Altstore Is he working on Altstore for 4-5 years? I do not think it was possible 4-5years before. I think apple release free signing without Apple Developer Account in July 2016.
Must have misunderstood, he had the initial commit for AltStore this May. It's Delta he's talking about.
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#49I'm all for mountain climbers climbing mountains, hackers hacking systems, and people otherwise doing it "because it's there". But when I read the developer's blog post, it sounds like he thinks this thing is going to stay around past the next iOS release.I hope he had fun and learned a lot of good skills doing this, but it's not something users should expect to be around.
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