Easier way to open a smart door lock in 3 seconds...use a hooligan tool[1]. For $150 USD a SWAT team(or someone who practices for a few hours) can be in your room in no time.
Drilling open a smart door lock in 4 seconds
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Isn't the point of a lock just to keep honest people honest? I mean you can buy the world's sturdiest, more secure lock and attach it to the world's strongest door, someone with a hammer can easily break a window. In my home, the locks and windows (laminated glass[0]) are hard enough to break that when you attempt to do so I have time to ready my firearm. Something like this would potentially allow someone to sneak…
Out of curiosity, do you have a normal door lock on your door; one that uses the kind of key you can get a copy made of at home depot? If so, pretty much anyone can open it with a bump key and a couple seconds. You can see it in action here ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0CIlwSxsvU ). His first try takes a bit longer than it should because he's turning too hard (simple mistake). Every attempt after that takes jus…
I've got abloy protec 2's on all exterior doors in addition to door chains I use at night.
https://securitysnobs.com/Abloy-Protec2-Single-Cylinder-w-Lo...
Re: Drilling open a smart door lock in 4 seconds
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> Ok, you drilled open a smart lock. Is the drill able to be positioned in such a manner when the lock is installed on a door? He drilled it from the front; the face is off in the picture where he's opening the latch with the screwdriver to better show where the mechanism is.
He drilled it from the side. The preview picture from the video clearly shows the entire mechanism sideways on the table.
Exactly. This has an added bonus of making it a permanent backdoor. You drill once and put black sticker on it, nobody will notice. Is there even a sensor in the lock to log being manually opened?
Re: Drilling open a smart door lock in 4 seconds
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Out of curiosity, do you have a normal door lock on your door; one that uses the kind of key you can get a copy made of at home depot? If so, pretty much anyone can open it with a bump key and a couple seconds. You can see it in action here ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0CIlwSxsvU ). His first try takes a bit longer than it should because he's turning too hard (simple mistake). Every attempt after that takes jus…
I've got abloy protec 2's on all exterior doors in addition to door chains I use at night. https://securitysnobs.com/Abloy-Protec2-Single-Cylinder-w-Lo...
Thanks for the link. That's a nice looking lock. Clearly removes the possibility of all the well known lock issues.
Re: Drilling open a smart door lock in 4 seconds
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Essentially everyone has stolen at some point in their lives, and almost everyone has gone into private property they theoretically shouldn't have gone into. My door has a lock, but must adults could get in by kicking it a few times with determination. That's true of most locks in existence. They're there to stop people who don't actually want to cause any real damage.
> Essentially everyone has stolen at some point in their lives Isn't this a fairly wild claim? I've never stolen anything and can't imagine doing so. That's a pretty dismal view of the human race isn't it.
Digitally, I'd say yes (depending on your viewpoints of IP.) Physically, no.
Re: Drilling open a smart door lock in 4 seconds
#46Isn't the point of a lock just to keep honest people honest? I mean you can buy the world's sturdiest, more secure lock and attach it to the world's strongest door, someone with a hammer can easily break a window. If someone is determined and willing, there really is nothing you can do to stop them from breaking into your house.
You can always break in somewhere given time and tools. But like the old saying goes, you don't need to overrun the tiger, you need to overrun the other guy.
If a robber has to choose between a locked door and an unlocked door, they will chose the unlocked one. I used to live in an apartment with a door that was so bad that the previous tenant had to add a second lock just to keep it closed, but one day a burglar came and robbed my neighbor. Discussing about why they chose his rather than mine he noticed "from the outside, it looks like you have hardened your door with a second lock".
And yes, you can break windows (if you have easily accessible windows) but a broken window is a much clearer sign of something going wrong than an opened door.
Re: Drilling open a smart door lock in 4 seconds
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Essentially everyone has stolen at some point in their lives, and almost everyone has gone into private property they theoretically shouldn't have gone into. My door has a lock, but must adults could get in by kicking it a few times with determination. That's true of most locks in existence. They're there to stop people who don't actually want to cause any real damage.
> Essentially everyone has stolen at some point in their lives Isn't this a fairly wild claim? I've never stolen anything and can't imagine doing so. That's a pretty dismal view of the human race isn't it.
I don’t think they’re suggesting that everyone on earth has purposefully become a thief at one point, but that sometimes it just happens.
I’ve definitely walked out of a supermarket with a bottle of water that I picked up while shopping and forgot to pay for - I still stole it, even if unintentionally.
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Interesting - I do wonder how well that attack would work in a normal use setting where it could become much harder to brace the lock against something.
He's got a couple of videos using it in different ways and it doesn't look like it would be too difficult to brace a lock in some way to use it, like using the tension in the chain or hasp it hangs from. But you're right, in some circumstances it probably would work. Seems dangerous though, both in debris flying off and even more so since it looks like a gun.
"since it looks like a gun"
There are models that don't.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ramset-HammerShot-0-22-Caliber-S...
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Maybe if you live in Baltimore or Detroit but in most of the US people really need a good reason to do that kind of thing. In college I had a friend who didn't even bother locking his door and always left his keys in his car and it was never a problem.
Pretty much every suburban area has a decent amount of home burglary. Sure, rural areas not so much. But take a look at the the stats at the bottom of this page and you'll see lots more than Baltimore and Detroit: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-most-burglaries-in-t...
> Pretty much every suburban area has a decent amount of home burglary. Sure, rural areas not so much.
But more than you'd think. Criminals are aware that they can often be in a different state before the police arrive at a rural crime scene, reducing the chance of getting caught.
Re: Drilling open a smart door lock in 4 seconds
#50Easier way to open a smart door lock in 3 seconds...use a hooligan tool[1]. For $150 USD a SWAT team(or someone who practices for a few hours) can be in your room in no time. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halligan_bar
Yes. The truth is most (and I mean nearly all) residential door frames snap like a match stick with a hooligan tool.
In a previous life I kicked in doors for a living. I don’t give a fuck how cool your dead bolt is. I could be in your face before you were out of bed.
If you want to keep out lazy thieves any lock will do. If you’re preventing against a dynamic entry you need trip wires, man traps, metal door frames, and a 12ga shotgun.