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.NET Core 3.0

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Re: .NET Core 3.0

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Post by LandR »

gtsteve wrote: post #25
avgDev wrote: post #23

I have been developing in .Net MVC 5 and now the last 6 months in .Net Core 2.1. Core is pretty awesome, I would say the learning curve is pretty high, but I'm very satisfied. Previously, I used Java in school. The .Net stack offers a lot of jobs in enterprise companies, if you are someone that dislikes SV mindset. Also, Visual Studio is an insane IDE. Although, I recently did have some nasty bugs but updates are com…

VS is very good but I've been using Rider since the start of this year for most work, I found it to be a very strong competitor.

Visual studio crashes and hangs on me multiple times a day. Rider is just solid.

Re: .NET Core 3.0

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Post by julienfr112 »

com2kid wrote: post #35
mcdermott wrote: post #24

C# (the default .Net lang) has so much ceremony, boilerplate/scaffolding and IDE dependence (IDE programmers) and OOP overhead that it requires 5x more lines of code than the same app in Python or Go. Every time my interest peaks, I take a look leave with the same feeling that it's a dated/bloated OOP relic and would take all the joy out of programming. I've also noticed that most C# programmers don't usually know an…

C# has very minimal boilerplate for a lot of uses. I can throw together a simple CRUD UI app in WinForms in well under a day. Visual Studio handles writing all the data binding code for me, code that I'd have to write myself in any other language. Using one of the enterprise frameworks, sure, those all have boilerplate, in any language, especially the older frameworks. And for some tasks, the amount of boilerplate is…

Under a day ?? Make an app with pyqt5 or kivy and it's under an hour...

Re: .NET Core 3.0

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Post by disease »

_hardwaregeek wrote: post #4

Non nullable reference types are so awesome! I'd love for the C# team to publish some posts on the creation of this feature. Most of the non nullable type systems exist in functional, or pseudo functional languages (Rust has rather functional semantics). It's very neat to see a honest to god mutable object oriented language implement non nullability. They probably had some interesting implementation challenges. Also,…

Don't know about Java, but last I checked there were plans to add non-nullable reference types to Dart.

Re: .NET Core 3.0

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Post by michannne »

The_rationalist wrote: post #21
hmexx wrote: post #13

List of performance improvements is mind-boggling: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/performance-improvemen... How could a mature standard library / frameworks have so much performance gains to be had?

Would be really nice to see performance comparisons against a chromium equivalent for the same UX.

Chromium is naturally bloated and heavy, what would be the goal in comparing it to WPF

Re: .NET Core 3.0

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mcdermott wrote: post #24

C# (the default .Net lang) has so much ceremony, boilerplate/scaffolding and IDE dependence (IDE programmers) and OOP overhead that it requires 5x more lines of code than the same app in Python or Go. Every time my interest peaks, I take a look leave with the same feeling that it's a dated/bloated OOP relic and would take all the joy out of programming. I've also noticed that most C# programmers don't usually know an…

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Re: .NET Core 3.0

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Post by nikofeyn »

ifthenelseend wrote: post #7

Now you can easily write the following state machine in C#: static State ChangeState(State current, Transition transition, bool hasKey) => (current, transition) switch { (Opened, Close) => Closed, (Closed, Open) => Opened, (Closed, Lock) when hasKey => Locked, (Locked, Unlock) when hasKey => Closed, _ => throw new InvalidOperationException($"Invalid transition") };

i actually just did this in f# using the MailboxProcessor. it's beautiful. although, f# has had this since the beginning and is much cleaner being able to define the states and transitions using discriminated unions and having exhaustive pattern matching.

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Post by Parazitull »

mcdermott wrote: post #24

C# (the default .Net lang) has so much ceremony, boilerplate/scaffolding and IDE dependence (IDE programmers) and OOP overhead that it requires 5x more lines of code than the same app in Python or Go. Every time my interest peaks, I take a look leave with the same feeling that it's a dated/bloated OOP relic and would take all the joy out of programming. I've also noticed that most C# programmers don't usually know an…

If you're interested in .net and the clr, you could replace c# with f#.

It's the most practical functional language that I've tried. Great for domain modeling and it can used in C# projects.

I also think that c# is too verbose so what I normally do: asp.net core mvc for routing, templating, authentication / authorization, data access etc and then reference an f# project that contains the domain logic. The best of both worlds.

Re: .NET Core 3.0

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Post by dmix »

avgDev wrote: post #23

I have been developing in .Net MVC 5 and now the last 6 months in .Net Core 2.1. Core is pretty awesome, I would say the learning curve is pretty high, but I'm very satisfied. Previously, I used Java in school. The .Net stack offers a lot of jobs in enterprise companies, if you are someone that dislikes SV mindset. Also, Visual Studio is an insane IDE. Although, I recently did have some nasty bugs but updates are com…

It's great to see the enterprise world catching up with the tech world

Re: .NET Core 3.0

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Post by royjacobs »

krat0sprakhar wrote: post #3

> Nullable enables you to directly target the flaws in code that lead to NullReferenceException. The lowest layer of the framework libraries has been annotated, so that you know when to expect null. I hope Java gets this one day.. would be a cool feature

In the JVM land you can check out Kotlin, which does this.
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