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Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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The technicals of the story are interesting around the software supply chain. I’m put off by the statement: “I want to be clear that this decision is not about contract value—it is about maintaining a consistent and fair business approach in these volatile times,” he wrote. “I do not believe that it is appropriate, practical, or within our mission to examine specific government projects with the purpose of selecting…

It's a PR statement so I wouldn't read much into it. It's designed solely to yield the least negative response possible in a polarizing situation.

But if we ignore the meaningfulness or truthfulness of the statement, let's take two hypothetical societies. In one society people agree to cooperate and trade with others when there's a mutual self interest, even if they happen to despise their partner otherwise. In the other society, people engage in a substantial degree of scrutiny and only trade and cooperate with others whom they are meaningfully aligned with. Which society do you think would have the better outcomes for whichever metrics you might imagine? I'd start with economic/technological progress, war vs peace, tribal vs unified (not to say homogeneous) society, etc.

I think there is a clear answer to my hypothetical, but perhaps people see things differently. I'd be quite curious to know how.

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Hi there. I’m around to answer any questions!

If I was you, I would not answer any questions, and I would consult a lawyer. edit: Looks like they were public gems, but in general it's always good advice to consult a lawyer before disrupting commercial or public systems.

He's not under arrest, Miranda.

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Hi there. I’m around to answer any questions!

Do you think this action had any net impact on ICE operations?

It's a political statement. This action receiving news coverage is net impact.

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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" Another user pointed out that Chef isn’t the only company to profit from working with ICE. Microsoft has raked in $4.6 million, IBM has received $1.6 million, and CISCO has received about $500,000 through their work with ICE. " Those numbers seem very low. Is this just for one year or one contract?

Does each government agency have to individually enter into a contract with Microsoft et al.? That sounds wildly inefficient and silly. My guess is that this "user" pulled those numbers out of thin air.

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Hi there. I’m around to answer any questions!

Do you think this action had any net impact on ICE operations?

The goal was not to disrupt ICE, Chef, or any organization thereof. The goal was to remove my code from an ecosystem that was using it for purposes I perceive as evil. I had no goals of disrupting ICE operations or Chef operations.

I suspected a small percentage of people with a hard, runtime dependency would be impacted, but I did not know Chef (the software) had a hard runtime dependency and was pulling that dependency from public RubyGems instead of a mirror they control.

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think this action had any net impact on ICE operations?

It's a political statement. This action receiving news coverage is net impact.

It's a political statement that will do nothing but echo in people's respective echo chambers. It'll get positive coverage like this in places like the Daily Dot and MSNBC, and Tucker Carlson will use it as "just another example of far left Silicon Valley attempting to circumvent our laws".

The net impact is zero.

Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I was you, I would not answer any questions, and I would consult a lawyer. edit: Looks like they were public gems, but in general it's always good advice to consult a lawyer before disrupting commercial or public systems.

He's not under arrest, Miranda.

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Re: Former developer at software company deletes his code to protest its ties to ICE

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Violent protests are not the way to fix things... pulling support from them is...

If ICE are literally Nazi's and immigration deletion centers are literally concentration camps, then why not? After all that would mean that they are effectively the embodiment of evil. You would be a hero.

If you actually genuinely believe that then I can't see why you wouldn't. Unless deep down you're self aware that you're using such rhetoric not because it is valid but because you think it supports your political cause while hurting politically those who you disagree with.

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