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When Your 11-Year-Old Says No to a Smartphone

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Re: When Your 11-Year-Old Says No to a Smartphone

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Post by dr_dshiv »

concerned_user wrote: post #29
dr_dshiv wrote: post #13

There are $40 smart watches for kids that have a sim card and no location tracking. Perfect. They Dick Tracey when they want. We can let them play on the streets of Amsterdam and just call when it is time to come home.

If it has a sim card it has tracking via cell towers, not as accurate but still 10-50 meters accuracy, whether that tracking is available to you is different thing.

Of course -- and always worth reminding people of that. In this case, contrasting to watches for kids that focus on tracking. It seems more ethical (less creepy) to call my kids than track them. Not sure why. But how I like to parent.

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Post by grenoire »

CalRobert wrote: post #43
Phenix88be wrote: post #37

Anyone else think this is fake ? I mean, 11 years old can have that level of thinking ? Or maybe I m missing something ?

11 year olds can be brilliant, and tragically I suspect far more of them would if we didn't infantilize them.

Some level of infantilising is not necessarily a bad thing. I definitely was not equipped mentally to be able to overcome the things I am dealing with in my 20s. Was I any less smart when I was 11? Probably not; but now I have other skills and traits apart from intelligence. Work ethics, sense of responsibility, and empathy to name a few.

Giving kids too much responsibility or credit does not help them further down their lives, but at the same time disregarding them entirely because they're kids will do irreparable damage to their self esteem.

Re: When Your 11-Year-Old Says No to a Smartphone

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Post by keiferski »

As much as parents might find it irritating, it's actually a cool thing that almost all kids go through a rebellious phase.

It's sort of a built-in societal balance mechanism; no matter how far one generation pushes a particular set of values or behaviors, you can expect the following generation to push back against it.

Re: When Your 11-Year-Old Says No to a Smartphone

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Post by raxxorrax »

Phenix88be wrote: post #37

Anyone else think this is fake ? I mean, 11 years old can have that level of thinking ? Or maybe I m missing something ?

Since this is vogue.com, I would tend to think so.

Could be true though, kids can be renitent and are generally smarter than people think.

Re: When Your 11-Year-Old Says No to a Smartphone

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Post by mikekchar »

CalRobert wrote: post #43
Phenix88be wrote: post #37

Anyone else think this is fake ? I mean, 11 years old can have that level of thinking ? Or maybe I m missing something ?

11 year olds can be brilliant, and tragically I suspect far more of them would if we didn't infantilize them.

I have a theory that children reach a high level of mental capability very quickly. What they lack is experience and an adult level of language facility. I think it's a very good idea to speak using easy to understand language when talking to children. However, I also think it's a good idea to expect that they have very good reasoning ability if given enough information.

Re: When Your 11-Year-Old Says No to a Smartphone

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Post by Swalden123 »

ajwin wrote: post #16
thiccly wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You must be joking, she wrote the article silly.

On the internet to promote herself with a photo of them at the end. I felt a strong sense of irony at the end of the story.

That’s what I felt as well. She seemed to state that it was a relief that her phone died, yet somehow still managed to have a photo of them.

Re: When Your 11-Year-Old Says No to a Smartphone

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Post by Swalden123 »

kalms wrote: post #11
Swalden123 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a shame the Mother can’t see this

Did you really read the article? Or are you talking in more general terms? The mother is full on accepting of her son and use it to question her own motives in life. As a parent, I found the read very refreshing.

The very son that didn’t want to be all over the Internet? Yet there he is pictured in the article on vogue.

I got the feeling from the article that she didn’t understand her sons point of view.

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