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Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by api »

simonblack wrote: post #4

I reckon it's misdirection. "We'll say it's a UFO, but really it's a hypersonic plane in development." Just like the SR71 had a cover story during its development phase. "The wreckage was recovered in two days, and persons at the scene were identified and requested to sign secrecy agreements. A cover story for the press described the accident as occurring to a F-105, and it is still listed in this way on official rec…

If we have planes that can do that, I'm a bit proud and I feel happy that all those tax dollars falling into black budget holes have been doing something interesting. Personally I doubt it. The performance of that thing (assuming it is really a physical craft) is ludicrous.

Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by rblion »

cr0sh wrote: post #18
rblion wrote: post #2

I was a skeptic of a lot of things until I saw some flying orbs around Mount Shasta, California last October. I saw similar moving orbs again in upstate NY this year on two occasions. I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. Anyone here ever see something similar?

I (and my brother-in-law) saw something a long while back that, while I have a rational explanation for what it might have been - I still don't honestly know for certain. It was late at night and we were in the back of a pickup getting some shuteye, heading east on the 8 outside of San Diego - if I had to make a guess we were somewhere between SD and El Centro; I can't narrow it down more. So we're going down the fre…

This sounds similar to what we saw. I want to know as well but I don't think it was a laser in our case. I could be wrong though, I'm okay with it being a mystery for now.

They moved around in a non-linear fashion at will, they were intelligently operated. One of them disappeared in a flash...

Strange thing was during encounter #2, they appeared in the spot in the sky 2 nights in a row.

It's easy to dismiss these encounters as nothing and it's also easy to just jump to wild conclusions. I asked here to see if others have seen something like this and I got my answer, I'm not the only one. It's good that both of our encounters were in California too, where some of these leaked videos are from as well.

Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by Rebelgecko »

kart23 wrote: post #26

I think theres two possibilities that are believable for me. I dont think its 'aliens' or other extraterrestrials. Either it is completely fake, made up by the navy to hide something else that they wanted to cover up, and could also serve as a confusion tactic for other countries aerospace programs, some sort of fake internal thing to tease out a mole or another situation like that. The other possibility is that it r…

What about a third option, it's a visual artifact on the FLIR recording?

Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by api »

lamontcg wrote: post #35
simonblack wrote: post #4

I reckon it's misdirection. "We'll say it's a UFO, but really it's a hypersonic plane in development." Just like the SR71 had a cover story during its development phase. "The wreckage was recovered in two days, and persons at the scene were identified and requested to sign secrecy agreements. A cover story for the press described the accident as occurring to a F-105, and it is still listed in this way on official rec…

Its probably a system for "jamming" FLIR sensors an allowing the attacker to project targets onto the system. The pilots were guinea pigs. Which is made more plausible by the fact that the USS Princeton asked the Nimitz pilots first if they were armed, and only after they informed the Princeton that they were not that they were given the orders to investigate. There probably was a real object -- since one was sighted…

That's interesting, but wasn't there also at least one visual sighting accompanying this FLIR stuff?

Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by rblion »

michaelmrose wrote: post #37
rblion wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting for sure. It's a mystery. Could be intentional misdirection by the government, could be beings from another planet or dimension, could be something I can't even wrap my brain around.

It's arguable that beings from another world actually exist although we now know that absent almost surely impossible ftl getting here would be a tremendous effort rendering the supposition that explorers are just popping in quite silly. Far from improving the situation positing other dimensions which we have no proof exist, and beings that we have no proof even can exist seems to make the theory much weaker not stro…

Our understanding of physics is still primitive compared to Type I, Type II, and Type III civilizations. Be humble.

Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by anigbrowl »

driverdan wrote: post #16
rblion wrote: post #2

I was a skeptic of a lot of things until I saw some flying orbs around Mount Shasta, California last October. I saw similar moving orbs again in upstate NY this year on two occasions. I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. Anyone here ever see something similar?

> I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. If you don't know what they were then you can't rule out these other things.

Of course you can if you know enough to identify those things. If you had never seen a helicopter before you could still differentiate it from a fixed-wing aeroplane.

Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by ceejayoz »

carbocation wrote: post #29
m463 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

could it be one of these? https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27185/f-35s-most-sinis...

Does this image [1] from that article purport to depict landing gear down... with afterburners? 1 = https://the-drive.imgix.net/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazo...

What's wrong with that? That's how you'd typically take off from a carrier. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterburner#/media/File:FA18_o...

As long as you don't exceed the max speed for the gear, no problem.

Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by russdill »

rblion wrote: post #2

I was a skeptic of a lot of things until I saw some flying orbs around Mount Shasta, California last October. I saw similar moving orbs again in upstate NY this year on two occasions. I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. Anyone here ever see something similar?

We live in an age where nearly everyone has a smartphone capable of recording video, satellites record the earth, and ground cameras record the sky. You either have to believe there is some massive conspiracy to cover the truth, or you are seeing some mundane phenomenon for which you just don't have the explanation available to you.

Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by vokep »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #43
kart23 wrote: post #26

I think theres two possibilities that are believable for me. I dont think its 'aliens' or other extraterrestrials. Either it is completely fake, made up by the navy to hide something else that they wanted to cover up, and could also serve as a confusion tactic for other countries aerospace programs, some sort of fake internal thing to tease out a mole or another situation like that. The other possibility is that it r…

What about a third option, it's a visual artifact on the FLIR recording?

This. It fits a lot of aspects of past "UFO" sightings that were actually just a reflection. The major issue in this case is multiple witnesses, and also supposedly multiple instruments detecting it (I've seen this claimed in comments but not the evidence itself)

If the thing behaves as though it has no inertia and does all these amazing movements, what else does? A reflection or otherwise illusory object can do all that easily, in fact thats the default behavior.

Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by neom »

rblion wrote: post #2

I was a skeptic of a lot of things until I saw some flying orbs around Mount Shasta, California last October. I saw similar moving orbs again in upstate NY this year on two occasions. I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. Anyone here ever see something similar?

I grew up in the middle of no where in rural Scotland, one night from my bedroom window I watched a glowing orb do crazy acrobatics in the air for about an hour, my sister and mum saw it as well. I'll have to ask her how she found him, but my mum contacted some guy who catalogued UFO reports in Scotland. Part of his investigation was contacting the police, my mum kept the letter they sent back: http://john.je/235ca4350b78

Still gives me chills remembering watching it.

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