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Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone wanted to get rid of the cable bundle and have channels a la carte. Be careful what you ask for.

No. Everyone wanted to get rid of both the cable bundle and channels. People just want on-demand access to whatever shows.

For cheap ^

If someone finds themselves chasing whatever streaming service has The Office, maybe it's worth dropping the $300 or whatever for everything on iTunes.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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post #6

"May" drive them back? This has already happened in my circles.. People who had cut the cord but all but walked away from casual piracy and signed up for Netflix and HBO (and probably Prime Video because they had Amazon Prime already) are openly talking about the fact they're definitely not signing up for more streaming services, and are seeking out torrenting again for the stuff that's being pulled from Netflix (esp…

I think there is a model for rotating streaming provider. You can easily watch a year's worth of a provider's [good] content in 3 months. Just change provider every 3 months to a different one, then binge it all. Maybe a service that automatically deactivates your account at the best point in the billing-cycle? If you could do it without too much overlap you could actually do it on a monthly basis: Jan - Netflix Feb…

I look forward to Netflix et al removing the account deactivate button from our profile pages in favor of a phone number that calls into an IVR Labyrinth.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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post #14

No surprise. Even we (HN) predicted this the moment the first content company withdrew their content from Netflix. Two reasons: 1. People only have so much money. 2. When people compare it to what they used to payit seems unfair. People complain when gas prices increases by a few percent, no wonder they complain when they suddenly have to pay twice or even three times for the same content they used to pay one low mon…

Pay per view has the drawback of requiring too many decisions, leading to decision fatigue.

Subscribing to a service for $20/mo is a one time decision, whereas figuring out if the show you're about to watch is worth $0.30 gets tiring really quickly.

Monthly credits works a bit better, but the all you can eat model completely avoids this.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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Here is my personal movie subscription list:

For animes: 1. Crunchyroll 2. Animelab 3. Funimation

For movies: 1. Netflix 2. YouTube movies

5 streaming sites and even than not all movies and animes are available to me because of geoblocking. Then when I go back to my home country only Netflix works, and for some weird reason in my country only the first 3 season of Race to the Edge is available, even though it claimed to be Netflix Originals. No wonder piracy is everywhere

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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I am from Brazil and here I am seeing the rise of "IPTV", with many service claiming they have deals with all streaming providers and movie companies, and you can pay them to watch just-released movies or any show on any provider...

I am strongly suspecting they saw the proliferation of streaming services (and here also "cable" services) as a opportunity, but are creating their services illegally, for example I know a person that got "IPTV" and I couldn't find anything about the company, and their PC "client" is actually just a modified VLC (that also for some reason only works on Windows).

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

#48
post #6

"May" drive them back? This has already happened in my circles.. People who had cut the cord but all but walked away from casual piracy and signed up for Netflix and HBO (and probably Prime Video because they had Amazon Prime already) are openly talking about the fact they're definitely not signing up for more streaming services, and are seeking out torrenting again for the stuff that's being pulled from Netflix (esp…

I think there is a model for rotating streaming provider. You can easily watch a year's worth of a provider's [good] content in 3 months. Just change provider every 3 months to a different one, then binge it all. Maybe a service that automatically deactivates your account at the best point in the billing-cycle? If you could do it without too much overlap you could actually do it on a monthly basis: Jan - Netflix Feb…

Though unrealistic, all things considered, there needs to be a single site for everything (akin to pirated tv/film sites, incidentally).

The user would go to a central place where all streaming options are available to be browsed and watched. The point of differentiation would be at payment, as the cost to the user, for whatever they just selected, would go to those who own the rights. No walled gardens, everyone wins. The user pays one monthly price, or within a fixed range. How to figure that all out, well, that's where complexities arise.

My personal soltuion, thus far, is to pay for the service I'm using the most (currently, MhZ Choice), then find other solutions for that which I don't pay for.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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post #6

"May" drive them back? This has already happened in my circles.. People who had cut the cord but all but walked away from casual piracy and signed up for Netflix and HBO (and probably Prime Video because they had Amazon Prime already) are openly talking about the fact they're definitely not signing up for more streaming services, and are seeking out torrenting again for the stuff that's being pulled from Netflix (esp…

I think there is a model for rotating streaming provider. You can easily watch a year's worth of a provider's [good] content in 3 months. Just change provider every 3 months to a different one, then binge it all. Maybe a service that automatically deactivates your account at the best point in the billing-cycle? If you could do it without too much overlap you could actually do it on a monthly basis: Jan - Netflix Feb…

It's a workaround, but it's still making streaming feel more like cable TV, since now you again have to watch shows according to a schedule.

The core selling point of streaming movies and shows is the "on demand" part. It removes an entire dimension from the problem of planning movie nights or your personal entertainment. If a show is available on the service you're subscribing to, you can watch it any time you want. With enough shows available, this boiled down to "any time I want to watch something, there's something interesting to me available".

Now with the balkanization of streaming space and people already doing provider rotation manually, the experience becomes more like this: "sorry hon, we won't be watching X tonight because it's on HBO, and we're switching to it next month, and Y we wanted to check out just got pulled from Netflix and is on CBS now, which is not worth paying for, and Z is geolocked everywhere, so I guess we have to find something else...".

... which can be quickly followed by: "you know what, I saw a streaming site that's not exactly official, but it costs like $4/month for ad-free experience, has every show you can name available - even ones nobody streams anymore - and guess what, it's perfectly legal to use; so screw the official platforms, and let's watch X tonight".

It's greed that's dooming the streaming services.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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post #37
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most normal middle class people aren’t going to go through the trouble of pirating movies and setting up a Plex server and then worry about setting up their router to get a good connection while they are away from home and even then deal with the abysmally slow upload speed of the typical home network instead of spending $8 a month to just have the convenience of Disney+ to be a glorified babysitter. Depending on t…

Although I'd prefer to have everything on Netflix, I'm definitely going to get Disney+. Not a fan of Disney the corporation, but if Disney+ contains everything Star Wars, everything Marvel, everything from Jim Henson, and everything from all their other properties, there's no way I'm going to pay for easy access to that. We don't even watch regular TV anymore at my home. It's either Netflix or Youtube.

There are only one or two Marvel or Star Wars movies a year though. Is that really worth subscribing to a streaming service for?

(Not to mention that only maybe a quarter of these movies are worth seeking out, the rest are something I’d only ever watch for free on an airplane or something. But that’s just personal taste).

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