Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack • Hacker News Board

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by wjoe » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 1:57 PM UTC

css wrote: post #26

winternett wrote: post #23

I got a Nokia 7.1 for around $300 and it has the headphone jack and a Micro SD slot, another feature that phone makers are getting rid of... Phone memory is terrible these days, I have a huge collection of Mp3s and wav files I don't want to give up, despite bluetooth stuttering at times in my car. Putting low onboard memory on modern phones should be a crime when USB sticks with 128GB plus are selling for $15... They…

1,600+ MB/s read on iPhone Xs NAND vs 90 MB/s read on an SDXC card. Of course the USB sticks and the like are cheaper, they're not comparable at all.

Not really relevant. Obviously you want fast I/O for your OS storage, but for external storage that's mostly going to be used for music, videos, and images, it really doesn't matter how fast it is.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by magashna » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 1:58 PM UTC

rpmisms wrote: post #16

I sincerely hope that headphone jacks will return as a fad. Not everyone has bluetooth wireless charging everything, nor do many want that. If you must get rid of the 3.5mm port, why not have dual USB-C to charge and listen at once?

I got the LG G7 not too long ago, not only has a jack but also a built in DAC

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by beat » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 1:59 PM UTC

Why is it so hard to just use a dongle? I use old-school wired studio headphones with my iPhone... I just leave the dongle that came with the phone on them.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by css » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 2:00 PM UTC

basch wrote: post #40

css wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1,600+ MB/s read on iPhone Xs NAND vs 90 MB/s read on an SDXC card. Of course the USB sticks and the like are cheaper, they're not comparable at all.

But I only need 90MB/s for music. Or if the phone can already determine unused apps to offload, it could move them to cold slow storage instead.

I don't disagree about offloading, but comparing the cost of SDXC to NAND does not make sense.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by LoSboccacc » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 2:00 PM UTC

weird there's no mention of the mi a3. under display fingerprint scanner, the headphone jack, Android One and an interesting price. if it wasn't for the 720p display it'd be a best buy

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by Onawa » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 2:01 PM UTC

verbify wrote: post #24

rpmisms wrote: post #16

I sincerely hope that headphone jacks will return as a fad. Not everyone has bluetooth wireless charging everything, nor do many want that. If you must get rid of the 3.5mm port, why not have dual USB-C to charge and listen at once?

Like this? https://www.geargeek.co.uk/type-c-to-3-5mm-headphone-jack-au...

Sure, dongles give you the option when the headphone jack is removed. It's just one more thing to remember to bring and possibly lose though. I like being able to grab just the phone and earbud headphones and not have to worry about it.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by hathym » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 2:01 PM UTC

amelius wrote: post #21

I was wondering, how do people connect two headphones to a single phone? Is that possible with Bluetooth or any other connection method that's not a headphone jack? It seems to me that some people got sloppy with the requirements analysis of their connector.

having a headphone jack does not mean you won't have Bluetooth

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by css » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 2:01 PM UTC

wjoe wrote: post #41

css wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1,600+ MB/s read on iPhone Xs NAND vs 90 MB/s read on an SDXC card. Of course the USB sticks and the like are cheaper, they're not comparable at all.

Not really relevant. Obviously you want fast I/O for your OS storage, but for external storage that's mostly going to be used for music, videos, and images, it really doesn't matter how fast it is.

Loading my (40k+ image) library on a 90MB/s card was painfully slow. Fast I/O always matters, there is no reason to make a performance sacrifice like that in 2019.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by nix0n » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 2:02 PM UTC

foobarbecue wrote: post #27

Writing this on my Sony Xperia XZ1. It's small, fast, waterproof, high res, and has headphone jack. My only complaint is lack of openness.

Unfortunately, the XZ1 and XZ1c (which I have) seem to be discontinued.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by wjoe » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 2:04 PM UTC

winternett wrote: post #23

I got a Nokia 7.1 for around $300 and it has the headphone jack and a Micro SD slot, another feature that phone makers are getting rid of... Phone memory is terrible these days, I have a huge collection of Mp3s and wav files I don't want to give up, despite bluetooth stuttering at times in my car. Putting low onboard memory on modern phones should be a crime when USB sticks with 128GB plus are selling for $15... They…

Had a Nokia 7 Plus for the same reasons, but unfortunately some other hardware issues meant that it only lasted a year and a half, then the USB port stopped working. Seems to be a common issue.

Switched to a Pixel 3a XL after that, which is kind of disappointing since it's a very similar phone for a higher price (and without microSD unfortunately), but there really aren't a whole lot of options for headphone jacked phones these days, especially once you start adding in other requirements like good battery and stock Android.

"Nokia"/HMD have promise, it was mostly a great phone but with some significant issues, I'll be holding out on buying another of their phones until they've improved their quality control.