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Re: Mapping Ancient Rome

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Post by angry_octet » Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 5:11 PM UTC

jriot wrote: post #5

angry_octet wrote: post #2

This is an interesting review of a more interesting project to create a digital geospatial model of the Rome of recent antiquity. It is mysterious why it has been published on an extremist website. It's like reading a article about the life and times of Goethe in Al Quaeda Monthly .

Is being a conservative consider being an extremist from your viewpoint?

People are getting very precious over hyperbole. It is incongruous that this articule appeared in this forum. I keep wondering if it is an aspect of the 'Western Civilisation is best, and traces its roots back to the Roman Empire' school of thought. The far-right funding group, the Ramsay Centre, has been pushing for a Western Civilisation degree recently. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-26/anu-reveals-why-it-wa...

And no I wouldn't call many of the articles on the AC website conservative, they seems not just brazenly political but extremist. In the American Fox news bubble they may seem middle of the road, but outside it they seem really wacky.

Re: Mapping Ancient Rome

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Post by angry_octet » Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 5:20 PM UTC

shadowprofile77 wrote: post #4

angry_octet wrote: post #2

This is an interesting review of a more interesting project to create a digital geospatial model of the Rome of recent antiquity. It is mysterious why it has been published on an extremist website. It's like reading a article about the life and times of Goethe in Al Quaeda Monthly .

extremist? Really? And especially to the level of comparing it with a literal terrorist organization. The hard right has its genuinely extremist, white supremacist and nationalist elements but to claim that a conservative affinity makes a site like this into an extremist page is absurdly self-righteous and hypocritical even. Might as well say the same about Huffpo or NPR. No? I never understood how leftist and heavil…

I didn't compare it to AQ, I said it was bizarre. AC has a lot of anti-LGBT hate articles which alone is enough to be considered extremeist. But I'm sorry if you take that as an insult.

Re: Mapping Ancient Rome

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Post by tryitnow » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 4:21 PM UTC

jdpedrie wrote: post #32

tryitnow wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My suspicion is that they had to find some ideological justification for writing about this cool project in a conservative magazine, so they probably just shoehorned those lines in there. I don't think this is a bad thing. The more conservatives are exposed to ideas and cultures that are radically at odds with contemporary conservative mores, the more likely these conservatives are to open their minds. And make no mi…

Perhaps more exposure to the intellectual tradition of conservatism would likewise help free you from, to borrow a phrase, "the provincial ideas" about your political opponents that you seem to have been "inclined to inherit from [your] immediate cultural background. "

Lol. Trust me, I've been down that path. I was not only conservative when I was younger, but fairly right-wing, including some beliefs close to NRx decades before that was a thing.

I've read most of the books, been to the conferences (including multiple CPACs), raised money for right-wing causes, and worked for right-wing organizations including some personalities that most politically savvy people would recognize.

Heck, my righ-wing connections were one of the reasons I was an early user of paypal (since one of my boddies was friends with Thiel and the Stanford Review crowd).

So, thanks, but I've already done what you've said and have found it wanting and severely lacking.