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The Cult of Kubernetes

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Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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Post by meddlepal »

goatinaboat wrote: post #32
usgroup wrote: post #12

I think devs often make bad decision makers because in some sense tech is often an addiction rather than a pragmatic choice. The cycle of picking a tech, jumping ship to it, religiously evangelising it, riding the wave and then jumping ship to the next related tech is typical in my opinion. I try hard to correct for this bias but sometimes struggle with exactly the same thing. There's just something about wanting to…

The cycle of picking a tech, jumping ship to it, religiously evangelising it, riding the wave and then jumping ship to the next related tech is typical in my opinion. It is typical for devs. Meanwhile ops have to support every half-arsed tyre-fire technology until the end of time, because a dev wanted to try it once, and now it’s in prod with users relying on it. Kubernetes is in a sense the pushback against that “do…

I worked for someone who had mindset that whatever technology developers wanted was always good and ops should just shut up and put up with it because devs are the ones that make the money for the business.

Very infuriating mindset to deal with.

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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Post by bryanlarsen »

echelon wrote: post #3
wepower_ico wrote: post #2

I am one of these guys who is using K8S at home. The reason is a unified platform for work and home environment.

What's the cheapest you can run a k8s cluster in the cloud? I've been looking to spin one up in AWS, but it looks remarkably expensive for running personal projects.

If you go with a provider that provides the control plane for free, which is the way Google Cloud and Digital Ocean do it (and probably many others), a single node cluster is actually a valid cluster. It won't have redundancy / High Availability which is Kubernetes' raison d'être, but it works well. If so, Kubernetes is no more expensive than non-Kubernetes. In the case of Digital Ocean, $10/month.

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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Post by bryanlarsen »

goatinaboat wrote: post #10
echelon wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the cheapest you can run a k8s cluster in the cloud? I've been looking to spin one up in AWS, but it looks remarkably expensive for running personal projects.

Consider just running Minikube on your laptop. It’s pretty realistic and won’t cost you a penny. Except maybe in electricity, it seems to consume an enormous wattage just to exist...

minikube --vm-driver=none consumes a lot less resources, and k3s even fewer.

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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Post by bryanlarsen »

tshanmu wrote: post #4
wepower_ico wrote: post #2

I am one of these guys who is using K8S at home. The reason is a unified platform for work and home environment.

How do you expose your services via an ingress when it needs to be behind a nat (via your home router/gateway)? Thanks!

You don't necessarily need an ingress, NodePort may be sufficient to expose a service.

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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Post by [deleted] »

usgroup wrote: post #12

I think devs often make bad decision makers because in some sense tech is often an addiction rather than a pragmatic choice. The cycle of picking a tech, jumping ship to it, religiously evangelising it, riding the wave and then jumping ship to the next related tech is typical in my opinion. I try hard to correct for this bias but sometimes struggle with exactly the same thing. There's just something about wanting to…

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Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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Post by nighthawk648 »

usgroup wrote: post #16
sieabahlpark wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could say that to pretty much any technical abstraction though.

I entirely agree... in fact it applies to me more with maths than it does with tech.

Which maths are you doing? Unless you’re talking about already well defined formalizations.

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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Post by marvin »

Traster wrote: post #17

This post and the discussion of it on Hacker News could well be performance art. As an FPGA engineer I'm not entirely sure.

Now imagine how hard it is for executives that don't know anything about technology to aid in making long-term strategic decisions that depends on this!

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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Post by goatinaboat »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #43
goatinaboat wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider just running Minikube on your laptop. It’s pretty realistic and won’t cost you a penny. Except maybe in electricity, it seems to consume an enormous wattage just to exist...

minikube --vm-driver=none consumes a lot less resources, and k3s even fewer.

I’m using Hyper-V at the moment, I’ll check out your suggestions - thanks

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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Post by taneq »

goatinaboat wrote: post #32
usgroup wrote: post #12

I think devs often make bad decision makers because in some sense tech is often an addiction rather than a pragmatic choice. The cycle of picking a tech, jumping ship to it, religiously evangelising it, riding the wave and then jumping ship to the next related tech is typical in my opinion. I try hard to correct for this bias but sometimes struggle with exactly the same thing. There's just something about wanting to…

The cycle of picking a tech, jumping ship to it, religiously evangelising it, riding the wave and then jumping ship to the next related tech is typical in my opinion. It is typical for devs. Meanwhile ops have to support every half-arsed tyre-fire technology until the end of time, because a dev wanted to try it once, and now it’s in prod with users relying on it. Kubernetes is in a sense the pushback against that “do…

It's typical for web application devs. There is a huge ecosystem of software developers outside of web services who are much less fad-happy and much more focused on using established tools to produce useful, reliable systems.
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