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Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Too bad that vegan food is mostly carbs and tasteless stuff like tofu. There are so many tasty and healthy vegetables and great veggie recipes but you have to cook at home because you can't find them outside.

It sounds like maybe you've only seen what passes for vegan options at meat-and-potatoes restaurants.

The general rule of thumb is, don't eat a dish that the chef probably isn't eating themself. They probably haven't put any love, or even thought, into it.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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the toll of eating meat on environment is far greater than your concerns over your feelings. choose the lesser evil

Eating meat is better for the environment in the long run. If human population drops to zero due to climate change (which meat consumption contributes to), then the environment will be left alone and do great on its own! It wont even take more than 1-2 millennia for recovery, which is nothing in geological terms! Compared to that eating vegan is just a feel-good half-measure.

I have only seen evidence to the contrary. can you provide anything to back up what you are saying

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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post #40
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the toll of eating meat on environment is far greater than your concerns over your feelings. choose the lesser evil

Eating meat is better for the environment in the long run. If human population drops to zero due to climate change (which meat consumption contributes to), then the environment will be left alone and do great on its own! It wont even take more than 1-2 millennia for recovery, which is nothing in geological terms! Compared to that eating vegan is just a feel-good half-measure.

Hmm. Meat eating is better for the environment because it'll see off humanity faster? Presumably along with driving the least economical car you can find, etc?

I see the point. I don't think it's the answer most of us prefer though.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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After 15 years of not eating meat, the past 1-2 years have been a golden era of vegetarian options in the grocery store, restaurants, and fast food. Based on anecdotes and my social circles, the number of people completely avoiding meat hasn't changed. But omnivores adopting a semi-veg lifestyle has increased. If I had to pick one thing, I'd say environmental concerns are the main reason my omnivore friends and colle…

For me that's a mix of ethical and environmental concerns.

I agree that there is a point in the belief that it is unethical to kill animals. That's not the most unethical thing that is happening in the world, there are a lot of things to argue about, but in general, I agree that in an ideal world, we should not do that.

The environmental concerns, I only buy half-heartedly. I don't really believe that land-owners will transform their pastures or soy cultures into rain forest instead of another profitable exploitation, I'd rather have states force responsible production and norms.

It is just not practical for me to go full-veg, where I live I would need to cook one hour a day for it, and I am a lousy cook, I have neither the inclination or the motivation for it.

But I reduced my consumption more and more. It was surprising to see how my taste changed. I used to be a huge meat eater and now I find eating even a small steak a bit nauseating. I almost eat no beef anymore, little pork but mostly chicken and fish, and even these I eat little.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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post #16

After 15 years of not eating meat, the past 1-2 years have been a golden era of vegetarian options in the grocery store, restaurants, and fast food. Based on anecdotes and my social circles, the number of people completely avoiding meat hasn't changed. But omnivores adopting a semi-veg lifestyle has increased. If I had to pick one thing, I'd say environmental concerns are the main reason my omnivore friends and colle…

At least in London, there has been a big uptick in veganism in the last year or so. Helped by mainstream supermarkets and restuarants adding vegan options en mass.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Vegan and vegetarian are absolute terms. The only meaning of "semi-vegetarian" or "semi-vegan" is that you're not either. "Semi-vegan" is a particularly nonsensical term.

If we have friends over, and decide on an Indian takeaway. We might order two vegan mains, two meat, and two vegan side dishes are shared between all of us. What's your term for that?

Given the site's market and the story, semi-vegan seems a reasonable compromise to describe many takeaway orders.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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post #35
post #31

Too bad that vegan food is mostly carbs and tasteless stuff like tofu. There are so many tasty and healthy vegetables and great veggie recipes but you have to cook at home because you can't find them outside.

If your tofu is tasteless, you're doing it wrong. One of the major perks of tofu is that it absorbs flavor really well.

Tofu by itself is tasteless.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Vegan and vegetarian are absolute terms. The only meaning of "semi-vegetarian" or "semi-vegan" is that you're not either. "Semi-vegan" is a particularly nonsensical term.

It might be a bad shortcut, but it's easy to understand that the person intentionaly uses a vegan diet in some of its meals.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Vegan and vegetarian are absolute terms. The only meaning of "semi-vegetarian" or "semi-vegan" is that you're not either. "Semi-vegan" is a particularly nonsensical term.

I try to eat a vegan meal at least a couple of times a week and vegetarian usually once a day.

If semi-vegetarian is off limits, what am I?

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