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Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Post by antocv »

nikivi wrote: post #5

The sad part of reading news like this is the feeling of paralysis and helplessness of watching it all unfold. There are no actionable calls to action or advice laid out in articles like these. Awareness is good though. Perhaps it inspires people to work directly on solving nature's greatest problems. A friend of mine made a GitHub curated list about tech companies working in this space. https://github.com/nglgzz/awe…

You are a victim of learned helplessness.

Throughout history men have taken up guns to do what they think is right. There is nothing stopping you and friends to begin a war against environmental destruction. They will call you eco-terrorists, like they called french revolutionaries murderers, like they called G Washington and his friends, gang rebels and bandits.

To get political is not enough, armed uprising war is just a political tool, but a highly effective one.

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Post by fredley »

antocv wrote: post #41
nikivi wrote: post #5

The sad part of reading news like this is the feeling of paralysis and helplessness of watching it all unfold. There are no actionable calls to action or advice laid out in articles like these. Awareness is good though. Perhaps it inspires people to work directly on solving nature's greatest problems. A friend of mine made a GitHub curated list about tech companies working in this space. https://github.com/nglgzz/awe…

You are a victim of learned helplessness. Throughout history men have taken up guns to do what they think is right. There is nothing stopping you and friends to begin a war against environmental destruction. They will call you eco-terrorists, like they called french revolutionaries murderers, like they called G Washington and his friends, gang rebels and bandits. To get political is not enough, armed uprising war is…

There have been highly effective, totally peaceful revolutions too.[0] Violence does not have to be the answer.

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_revolution

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

#44

Post by Scarblac »

vfc1 wrote: post #20

Brasil needs to be heavily sanctioned by the international community, I'm talking Cuba-level stuff if we want to even have a chance at stopping the rise above 2 degrees, we only have 12 years which means that it's already probably too late. More worrying is the rise of populism in the world supported by fake news, ignorance and social media that led to this. How did someone as ignorant as Bolsonaro ever managed to ge…

The US burns by far the most fossil fuel per capita. If any country needs to be sanctioned for causing climate change, it's the US.

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

#45

Post by lucb1e »

oblio wrote: post #9
onevu wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>we are all responsible, it's not Brazil's responsibility, it's World's responsibility to take care of nature. Eh, no. The part of the Amazon that is in Brazil belongs to Brazil.

If you burn down your house and the fire spills over to my house, it stops being just your problem.

So... do we invade the USA for being the most pollutive country?

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

#46

Post by icebraining »

darkwater wrote: post #35
vfc1 wrote: post #20

Brasil needs to be heavily sanctioned by the international community, I'm talking Cuba-level stuff if we want to even have a chance at stopping the rise above 2 degrees, we only have 12 years which means that it's already probably too late. More worrying is the rise of populism in the world supported by fake news, ignorance and social media that led to this. How did someone as ignorant as Bolsonaro ever managed to ge…

> How did someone as ignorant as Bolsonaro ever managed to get elected as president of a democratic country, and get away with some of the things he says? Just like Trump, probably.

Anecdotally, having met a few Brazilians who voted for him, the phrase "taking him seriously, not literally" does seem to apply as well.

That said, other than that the situations seem quite different. Brazil was in a political quagmire that is hard to fathom in the US, at least for someone seeing both from afar.

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

#47

Post by donkeyd »

Scarblac wrote: post #44
vfc1 wrote: post #20

Brasil needs to be heavily sanctioned by the international community, I'm talking Cuba-level stuff if we want to even have a chance at stopping the rise above 2 degrees, we only have 12 years which means that it's already probably too late. More worrying is the rise of populism in the world supported by fake news, ignorance and social media that led to this. How did someone as ignorant as Bolsonaro ever managed to ge…

The US burns by far the most fossil fuel per capita. If any country needs to be sanctioned for causing climate change, it's the US.

I don't disagree, but burning the Amazon has a double effect, it releases massive amounts of CO2, but also kills trees that can remove the CO2. The Amazon is called the 'lungs of our world' for a reason.

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Post by avocado4 »

Scarblac wrote: post #44
vfc1 wrote: post #20

Brasil needs to be heavily sanctioned by the international community, I'm talking Cuba-level stuff if we want to even have a chance at stopping the rise above 2 degrees, we only have 12 years which means that it's already probably too late. More worrying is the rise of populism in the world supported by fake news, ignorance and social media that led to this. How did someone as ignorant as Bolsonaro ever managed to ge…

The US burns by far the most fossil fuel per capita. If any country needs to be sanctioned for causing climate change, it's the US.

Climate change doesn't work on a per-capita basis.

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Post by CraneWorm »

antocv wrote: post #41
nikivi wrote: post #5

The sad part of reading news like this is the feeling of paralysis and helplessness of watching it all unfold. There are no actionable calls to action or advice laid out in articles like these. Awareness is good though. Perhaps it inspires people to work directly on solving nature's greatest problems. A friend of mine made a GitHub curated list about tech companies working in this space. https://github.com/nglgzz/awe…

You are a victim of learned helplessness. Throughout history men have taken up guns to do what they think is right. There is nothing stopping you and friends to begin a war against environmental destruction. They will call you eco-terrorists, like they called french revolutionaries murderers, like they called G Washington and his friends, gang rebels and bandits. To get political is not enough, armed uprising war is…

... just don't do anything that would land you in jail.

> They will call you eco-terrorists, like they called french revolutionaries murderers,

In US they will call you a last Tuesday's shooter.

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Post by [deleted] »

nikivi wrote: post #5

The sad part of reading news like this is the feeling of paralysis and helplessness of watching it all unfold. There are no actionable calls to action or advice laid out in articles like these. Awareness is good though. Perhaps it inspires people to work directly on solving nature's greatest problems. A friend of mine made a GitHub curated list about tech companies working in this space. https://github.com/nglgzz/awe…

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