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My Sudden Trip to Hell

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Re: My Sudden Trip to Hell

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A friend of mine had her young brother suddenly developing a narrow line on the skin, growing quickly; 24 hours later both his arms and legs were amputated to keep him alive. I am wondering if having allowed emergency wide-spectrum antibiotics freely for such cases would help? Time seems to be extremely critical in such cases.

What was the cause of the amputation?

Re: My Sudden Trip to Hell

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Considering the bills for a condition like this, I'd be wondering if it's even worth it to go to the doctor. My life isn't worth the destitution visited on everyone I know necessary to keep me alive, and I can't imagine the moral calculus his family had to go through.

I'm glad this guy could get the care needed to survive, and I wish him the very best in his recovery.

Re: My Sudden Trip to Hell

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post #39

A friend of mine had her young brother suddenly developing a narrow line on the skin, growing quickly; 24 hours later both his arms and legs were amputated to keep him alive. I am wondering if having allowed emergency wide-spectrum antibiotics freely for such cases would help? Time seems to be extremely critical in such cases.

That's called Lymphangitis and it's a sign that there is an extreme underlying infection, usually by the same bacteria that this article is about.

Re: My Sudden Trip to Hell

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Considering the bills for a condition like this, I'd be wondering if it's even worth it to go to the doctor. My life isn't worth the destitution visited on everyone I know necessary to keep me alive, and I can't imagine the moral calculus his family had to go through. I'm glad this guy could get the care needed to survive, and I wish him the very best in his recovery.

Yes. You have one life, and it’s worth living with or without money.

Re: My Sudden Trip to Hell

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post #39

A friend of mine had her young brother suddenly developing a narrow line on the skin, growing quickly; 24 hours later both his arms and legs were amputated to keep him alive. I am wondering if having allowed emergency wide-spectrum antibiotics freely for such cases would help? Time seems to be extremely critical in such cases.

I would consider it a mandatory equipment of the household. Primarily I take them on trips to remote 3rd world countries where you can't rely on quick quality health care, even though most of the time I come back home with them untouched. For me its usually Sumamed, plus whatever specific for destination (malaria pills, stomach/throat, eyes etc.). Just beware of the expiration - they may lose potency and better renew them.

I am not sure I would use them at home in case you describe though - I would just run to emergency if possible. Also antibiotics don't work with viruses, fungus or parasites, so its not a panacea.

Re: My Sudden Trip to Hell

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Considering the bills for a condition like this, I'd be wondering if it's even worth it to go to the doctor. My life isn't worth the destitution visited on everyone I know necessary to keep me alive, and I can't imagine the moral calculus his family had to go through. I'm glad this guy could get the care needed to survive, and I wish him the very best in his recovery.

He's Canadian I believe; so while I'm not sure how his care in NYC would be billed, I think it would be still covered by OHIP (the public health insurance in Ontario Canada) or maybe travel insurance.

Certainly all the care he received in Toronto would have been covered, assuming he's Canadian.

Re: My Sudden Trip to Hell

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It's a sign of what it's like to be an American that the following stood out to me:

The timing of his illness is rather unfortunate, as it caught him in New York, rather than Toronto, which probably cost him a lot of money.

Re: My Sudden Trip to Hell

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post #46

Considering the bills for a condition like this, I'd be wondering if it's even worth it to go to the doctor. My life isn't worth the destitution visited on everyone I know necessary to keep me alive, and I can't imagine the moral calculus his family had to go through. I'm glad this guy could get the care needed to survive, and I wish him the very best in his recovery.

He's Canadian I believe; so while I'm not sure how his care in NYC would be billed, I think it would be still covered by OHIP (the public health insurance in Ontario Canada) or maybe travel insurance. Certainly all the care he received in Toronto would have been covered, assuming he's Canadian.

Don't want to spark a healthcare debate, but want to mention that I bet NONE of the non-US readers on HN would have given a single thought about the costs involved if this was happening in their countries.

It's wild to me that the potential financial impact of this was part of the picture for many of the US people reading it (especially the startup founders who are probably without insurance right now, and this would leave absolutely financially ruined for life).

Re: My Sudden Trip to Hell

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post #38

I am disturbed that he was almost sent away from the hospital if it weren’t for the persistence of his business partner that it was something that needed further investigation.

It’s a common thing due to the fact that doctors see too many trivial, common cases and apply Occam’s razor.

I had the same experience in a big, prestigious hospital. After a surgery went wrong they insisted I’m ok and getting better despite my less and less vigorous protests. When they finally accepted to investigate this more thoroughly they realized the severity. The story repeated itself through multiple surgeries. Even just hours before the last one they insisted I should be getting better and again only investigated after several pleas. Which was very surprising considering that when going into this last surgery my chances of survival were under 15%, I was basically in septic shock and already mostly unconscious due to the illness and medication.

I think a doctor’s diagnosis starts with assuming basic issues and escalating later rather than the other way around. It might make sense statistically... unless you’re among the unlucky few.

Re: My Sudden Trip to Hell

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Considering the bills for a condition like this, I'd be wondering if it's even worth it to go to the doctor. My life isn't worth the destitution visited on everyone I know necessary to keep me alive, and I can't imagine the moral calculus his family had to go through. I'm glad this guy could get the care needed to survive, and I wish him the very best in his recovery.

Can anyone make a good guess on how much this would have cost here in the US and if it had happened in Canada ?
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