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Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire

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Re: Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire

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IMHO the future of personal transportation is vehicles like that. We don't have the space in cities to support 2-3 tons of steel per traveler, and plain bicycles are uncomfortable in bad weather, or when you are physically impaired. But small (electric?) velomobiles with three or four wheels are perfect for city commutes when cycling is not an option. They also don't need 15-20kWh/100km like an electric car would.

Sir Clive Sinclair thought so too and tried to make it happen about 35 years ago, but it didn't quite catch on, to say the least: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_C5

That looks great!

Re: Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire

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Twizy with closeable windows would be a very nice thing, indeed.

It appears scissor doors with windows are an optional extra.

The windows are from some plastic sheet material and they're affixed with a zipper, so you can take them off.

There are some 3rd party makers of glass windows.

Re: Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire

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post #5

IMHO the future of personal transportation is vehicles like that. We don't have the space in cities to support 2-3 tons of steel per traveler, and plain bicycles are uncomfortable in bad weather, or when you are physically impaired. But small (electric?) velomobiles with three or four wheels are perfect for city commutes when cycling is not an option. They also don't need 15-20kWh/100km like an electric car would.

Sir Clive Sinclair thought so too and tried to make it happen about 35 years ago, but it didn't quite catch on, to say the least: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_C5

With 2 lead-acid batteries and a fragile plastic gear as an essential part of the transmission, it's hardly a surprise really.

However it's not that bad actually, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JikUIdHXcc

Re: Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire

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post #5

IMHO the future of personal transportation is vehicles like that. We don't have the space in cities to support 2-3 tons of steel per traveler, and plain bicycles are uncomfortable in bad weather, or when you are physically impaired. But small (electric?) velomobiles with three or four wheels are perfect for city commutes when cycling is not an option. They also don't need 15-20kWh/100km like an electric car would.

how about this?: https://www.carver.earth/

electric 3 wheel car/scooter for 1-2 persons

Re: Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire

#45
post #5

IMHO the future of personal transportation is vehicles like that. We don't have the space in cities to support 2-3 tons of steel per traveler, and plain bicycles are uncomfortable in bad weather, or when you are physically impaired. But small (electric?) velomobiles with three or four wheels are perfect for city commutes when cycling is not an option. They also don't need 15-20kWh/100km like an electric car would.

I've expressed the same sentiment before. The problem is that even talking about electric cars gets people's knickers in a twist; they need to be able to drive for 1000 miles straight while towing an apartment on wheels behind them and any vehicle which can't do that just isn't good enough. They'd rather be dead than have to drive one of these.

See also "we can't have bike lanes because I'm a scaffolding contractor and need to deliver 40 tonnes of steel poles on my truck"

Re: Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire

#46
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It's a velomobile. They're somewhat unusual but surely not so unusual that they're worthy of a newspaper article? There are quite a few manufacturers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velomobile#Velomobile_manufact...

I think the news story is also that it was spotted on the M25 which is the orbital motorway round London that is quite busy and that it is, in fact, perfectly legal. Edit: Also it is the BBC which has a track record of regarding unusual vehicles as entertaining: https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/top-gear-technology-cent... From the 'review': "Against: The crash protection is a bit fleshy"

Also it's mildy amusing that the police stopped it because OBVIOUSLY that's not road legal, but it turns out that actually there was nothing they could cite it for - unlike a good number of cars on the road.

Re: Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire

#47
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

is it legal in the uk to drive barefoot?

Yep - https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/road-safety/driving-witho...

It's also legal in New Zealand to drive barefoot (or even ride a motorbike barefoot): https://i.stuff.co.nz/motoring/99992891/silly-question-24-ca...

Re: Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire

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post #19
post #5

IMHO the future of personal transportation is vehicles like that. We don't have the space in cities to support 2-3 tons of steel per traveler, and plain bicycles are uncomfortable in bad weather, or when you are physically impaired. But small (electric?) velomobiles with three or four wheels are perfect for city commutes when cycling is not an option. They also don't need 15-20kWh/100km like an electric car would.

The future of personal transportation is no personal transportation.

What do you mean? People still need to get from A to B. A and B are different for almost everybody, so there has to be a "personal" leg of the journey, even if it's just walking to the bus stop.

Re: Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire

#49
post #5

IMHO the future of personal transportation is vehicles like that. We don't have the space in cities to support 2-3 tons of steel per traveler, and plain bicycles are uncomfortable in bad weather, or when you are physically impaired. But small (electric?) velomobiles with three or four wheels are perfect for city commutes when cycling is not an option. They also don't need 15-20kWh/100km like an electric car would.

Why don't we have more golf carts or similar vehicles on urban streets? I assume they're electric and easily rechargeable? Strikes me as a decent, existing platform upon which to build variants - could have a larger tray at the rear, netted storage at the front, etc.

RV parks and campground hosts and some retirees use them for getting about in a very local context. I know they're probably serve a lot of the needs I'd have in a second car.

Re: Homemade Electric Motorcycle Stopped on M25 in Hertfordshire

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post #40
post #5

IMHO the future of personal transportation is vehicles like that. We don't have the space in cities to support 2-3 tons of steel per traveler, and plain bicycles are uncomfortable in bad weather, or when you are physically impaired. But small (electric?) velomobiles with three or four wheels are perfect for city commutes when cycling is not an option. They also don't need 15-20kWh/100km like an electric car would.

Also think they are the future. Remember the Lit Motors C1? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdHo01xYTWQ And the Monotracer? https://www.peravescz.com/ And the Lit Motors C1 Chinese copy? https://electrek.co/2016/06/14/chinese-copycat-lit-motors-se...

There's a good collection of them here too: http://www.bikeweb.com/image/tid/13

Also check out the amazing 1991 BMW C-1 fully enclosed successor concept that never made it to production: http://www.bikeweb.com/node/130

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