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The subversive messages hidden in The Wizard of Oz

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Re: The subversive messages hidden in The Wizard of Oz

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Oz-tray-lee-ah" Edited to reflect a pronunciation, not necessarily a correct or accurate one, from which it's easy to derive 'oz'.

Nobody says it with a z sound, always an s.

They do say it with a /z/ sound. That's why it gets spelled Oz.

Compare Aussie, which is also pronounced with a /z/.

Re: The subversive messages hidden in The Wizard of Oz

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post #11
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always thought Oz was a reference to Australia. How did Aus come to be called Oz, the land down under?

"Oz-tray-lee-ah" Edited to reflect a pronunciation, not necessarily a correct or accurate one, from which it's easy to derive 'oz'.

It's almost impossible to produce "oz-tr" because the t is unvoiced. But as I mention sidethread, the term for a person, Aussie, is pronounced with a /z/, and the Oz pronunciation is probably related to that.

Re: The subversive messages hidden in The Wizard of Oz

#43
post #17

How does all of this connect with The Dark Side Of The Moon?

    Money, get away
    Get a good job with good pay and you're okay
    Money, it's a gas
    Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash
    New car, caviar, four star daydream
    Think I'll buy me a football team

    Money, get back
    I'm all right Jack keep your hands off of my stack
    Money, it's a hit
    Don't give me that do goody good bullshit
    I'm in the high-fidelity first class traveling set
    And I think I need a Lear jet

    Money, it's a crime
    Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie
    Money, so they say
    Is the root of all evil today
    But if you ask for a raise it's no surprise that they're
    Giving none away, away, away

Re: The subversive messages hidden in The Wizard of Oz

#44

I’ve always meant to go through and read the entire Oz series by Baum. I’ve heard that it’s surprisingly enjoyable from start to finish, given the number of books.

Yes, the later books about ozma and the underground kingdom are fantastic.

Re: The subversive messages hidden in The Wizard of Oz

#45
post #6

From "Debt, The First 5000 years": L. Frank Baum’s book The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, which appeared in 1900, is widely recognized to be a parable for the Populist campaign of William Jennings Bryan, who twice ran for president on the Free Silver platform – vowing to replace the gold standard with a bimetallic system that would allow the free creation of silver money alongside gold. … [O]ne of the main constituencies f…

About as reliable a theory as this part:

>Apple Computers is a famous example: it was founded by (mostly Republican) computer engineers who broke from IBM in Silicon Valley in the 1980s, forming little democratic circles of twenty to forty people with their laptops in each other’s garages.

https://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2012/02/gabriel-rosser-on-dav...

Re: The subversive messages hidden in The Wizard of Oz

#46
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> President John F. Kennedy voiced support for returning America to the Gold Standard. He was assassinated soon after. He also voiced a million other things that you might as well pin his assassination on, if you're so willing to jump to conclusions.

The Netflix movie The Irishman is about a labor union organizer/mob hitman [1] who claims to have assisted in JFKs assassination at the behest of the mob/ Jimmy Hoffa. You can literally spin a wheel of different motivations for groups who wanted JFK dead and they all have their own convincing reasons. Except hackjack's little conspiracy here, which seems to be missing a final paragraph about why we need to switch to…

> they all have their own convincing reasons.

even more so if those reasons are connected, no?

Re: The subversive messages hidden in The Wizard of Oz

#48

I’ve always meant to go through and read the entire Oz series by Baum. I’ve heard that it’s surprisingly enjoyable from start to finish, given the number of books.

It also gets pretty macabre in parts. Specifically The Tin-Woodsman of Oz where the title character wonders whatever happened to the girl that was the reason he was cursed. You see, he fell in love with a girl who was enslaved to a witch, so the witch enchanted his axe to chop parts of him off every time he swung it. Eventually, there was nothing left but the tin replacements.

And if that isn't enough, it is established that nothing in Oz ever dies. Including all his chopped off parts...

Re: The subversive messages hidden in The Wizard of Oz

#50
post #17

How does all of this connect with The Dark Side Of The Moon?

Watch Wizard of Oz with the sound off. Just as the MGM lion finishes roaring, drop the needle[1] onto the Dark Side of the Moon LP, and watch as the songs sync up to the imagery.

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[1] Or un-pause the CD/MP3 etc.

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