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Where did the melody go? (2017)
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Re: Where did the melody go? (2017)
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly don’t know whether you’re praising or criticizing Hotel California. • https://www.laweekly.com/the-eagles-hotel-california-why-thi... • https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/lets-talk-abo...
Think what you want about the song, but the lyrics are descriptive yet metaphorical. I made this example because I assumed everyone is familiar with it. The point is: the lyrics don't just consist of "I did this, I did that, yeah yeah yeah".
Are you saying no recent music contains "descriptive yet metaphorical" lyrics?
Re: Where did the melody go? (2017)
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#44When melody was at its apogee, not only did songs have interesting melodies, but they also had a bridge -- a second section melodically different from the first. The best songs had seemed to be the ones with the most distinctive bridges. Somehow, Tin Pan Alley managed to exemplify this artifact from classical music. Sousa's marches, typically in 3 parts in different keys, with one foot in the classical tradition and one in the new world stand as a memorial bridge to melodic non-monotony connecting Brahms to Broadway.
Re: Where did the melody go? (2017)
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Think what you want about the song, but the lyrics are descriptive yet metaphorical. I made this example because I assumed everyone is familiar with it. The point is: the lyrics don't just consist of "I did this, I did that, yeah yeah yeah".
Are you saying no recent music contains "descriptive yet metaphorical" lyrics?
No, but it hardly exists in the mainstream and most indie music I've heard is mainly ambience stuff.
Re: Where did the melody go? (2017)
#46Modern music has regressed into something primitive and tribal. In other words, completely mind numbing garbage. And it just gets worse every year. Post Malone is a good indication of just how fast Western society is falling.
>> "Modern music has regressed into something primitive and tribal. In other words, completely mind numbing garbage. And it just gets worse every year." The blending of hip hop into everything has been a huge boon for the evolution of western music just like the merger with jazz was in the '50s. "Primitive"/"tribal" people had some good ideas that sometimes get lost in our panicked attempts to set ourselves ever-furt…
> panicked attempts to set ourselves ever-further above our roots.
I honestly don't know what you're talking about here. What's an example of such an attempt that you think was/is misguided?
Re: Where did the melody go? (2017)
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Simpler and repetitive does mean worse.
Simpler and repetitive does mean worse - for you. I actually agree with you, but I know plenty of people that love club/dance music, which is about as simple and repetitive as you can get. I think it's important to take the context of the music being played/performed as well: a simple, repetitive piece would likely not be received well in an orchestra hall, while a song with complex melody, deep lyrics, and rich harm…
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Re: Where did the melody go? (2017)
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> "Modern music has regressed into something primitive and tribal. In other words, completely mind numbing garbage. And it just gets worse every year." The blending of hip hop into everything has been a huge boon for the evolution of western music just like the merger with jazz was in the '50s. "Primitive"/"tribal" people had some good ideas that sometimes get lost in our panicked attempts to set ourselves ever-furt…
> panicked attempts to set ourselves ever-further above our roots. I honestly don't know what you're talking about here. What's an example of such an attempt that you think was/is misguided?
See: the quote in my comment.
codesushi42 frames tribalness and primalness in music as a regression.
Re: Where did the melody go? (2017)
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you saying no recent music contains "descriptive yet metaphorical" lyrics?
No, but it hardly exists in the mainstream and most indie music I've heard is mainly ambience stuff.
The bottom line is that older music seem better because time is a filter - we remember the good stuff. People have always complained that "music nowadays" is crap.
Re: Where did the melody go? (2017)
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No, but it hardly exists in the mainstream and most indie music I've heard is mainly ambience stuff.
The bottom line is that older music seem better because time is a filter - we remember the good stuff. People have always complained that "music nowadays" is crap.
There is a hypothesis that older music seems better because it is cherry picked, and is being unfairly compared against a random selection of new music.
That hypothesis is, unfortunately, starkly false.
Music nowadays really is crap; time is not helping it. If we use our 20/20 hindsight and pick the best music of, say, the past 50 years, it will be heavily weighted toward the first 20 of those years.
Thirty years ago, sure, I thought that a lot of "music nowadays" was crap; but, unlike today, I also thought that a good deal of it wasn't.