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Re: Food is free if you know where to look

#41
Check out Rob Greenfield if you haven't: https://www.youtube.com/user/RobJGreenfield.

He's living for a year on only food he planted or forages from naturally growing sources. He's in Orlando, Florida.

I find him inspirational. I'm now growing tomatoes, herbs, and salad greens in my windowsill and I've foraged several pounds of fruit and herbs from near my home -- and I live in Manhattan!

I can't believe how delicious and plentiful they are.

Re: Food is free if you know where to look

#42

Today I've read an article about how Spanish farmers let fruit rot on the tree, since prices are so low that they can't cover the cost of labour. Someone asked on the comments why they don't just let people go and grab as much fruit as they want, if it's going to waste anyway. The answer might be 'because regulations'. If you got a farm and people pick up fruit for free, does it count as unpaid labour? Could you get…

Sue for what? It's not labour if the farmer doesn't get anything.

Plus, lawsuits for trivial stuff are not common outside the USA.

Re: Food is free if you know where to look

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Got to say this is an impressively dense map, there's plenty of options within 1 mile of my current location. Seems dangerous to use this info though, who knows what kinds of pesticides are sprayed on those fruit trees for example.

Who goes around spraying apple trees on public land? I'd be far more worried about finding a worm in my apple! I do appreciate the efforts of the team behind this map. Found a strawberry patch only a couple of miles from my place.

I picked some wild brambles yesterday.

Later, at home, I did wash them before eating them in a darkened room.

Hey, what's that moving in my bowl — a small worm. I just removed it and carried on.

Re: Food is free if you know where to look

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Before you end up stealing someone's private property, introduce yourself to the property owner and ask for permission. If the property owner changes, you have to go through the process again. Rights aren't grandfathered in. This seems to be beyond what many people are capable of. This app is going to be shut down.

There's something about the concept of private property that gets people properly riled up. It's mine, my preciousss!

What if you live in a monarchy and all the land and all the trees belong to the king? Do you have moral/ethical right to steal fruit from the king's trees?

There are very few private trees around where I am. This app lists a lot of trees in public spaces around me - trees I never gave a second thought before. I'm grateful for it.

> This app is going to be shut down.

Pray tell more. By whom?

Re: Food is free if you know where to look

#45
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I see it has listed a fruit tree in my yard... Is there a way to revoke that? I've given permission to my neighbors to pick as long as they knock, not to randoms.

It's somewhat amusing when you rediscover the tragedy of the commons and the idea of scarcity by providing free access to your fruit tree.

Re: Food is free if you know where to look

#46
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I see it has listed a fruit tree in my yard... Is there a way to revoke that? I've given permission to my neighbors to pick as long as they knock, not to randoms.

Around 2000-2001 I rented a house in the small town where I grew up, and there was a plum tree in the yard. I mentioned to the landlord that I had been approached by the neighborhood kids asking if they could harvest from the tree, and the landlord said he had no problem with it if I didn't mind (that was his arrangement with the last renter). Kudos to the kids for asking first, and at first I didn't mind, but they e…

That sounds less about your fruit trees or your truck, and more about your trashy neighbors looking at you as lower status, perhaps because you were a renter, or childless, or the way you look.

Re: Food is free if you know where to look

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post #25

Before you end up stealing someone's private property, introduce yourself to the property owner and ask for permission. If the property owner changes, you have to go through the process again. Rights aren't grandfathered in. This seems to be beyond what many people are capable of. This app is going to be shut down.

There's something about the concept of private property that gets people properly riled up. It's mine, my preciousss! What if you live in a monarchy and all the land and all the trees belong to the king? Do you have moral/ethical right to steal fruit from the king's trees? There are very few private trees around where I am. This app lists a lot of trees in public spaces around me - trees I never gave a second thought…

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Re: Food is free if you know where to look

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post #44
post #25

Before you end up stealing someone's private property, introduce yourself to the property owner and ask for permission. If the property owner changes, you have to go through the process again. Rights aren't grandfathered in. This seems to be beyond what many people are capable of. This app is going to be shut down.

There's something about the concept of private property that gets people properly riled up. It's mine, my preciousss! What if you live in a monarchy and all the land and all the trees belong to the king? Do you have moral/ethical right to steal fruit from the king's trees? There are very few private trees around where I am. This app lists a lot of trees in public spaces around me - trees I never gave a second thought…

how would you feel if someone stole your car? that is private property

Re: Food is free if you know where to look

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There's something about the concept of private property that gets people properly riled up. It's mine, my preciousss! What if you live in a monarchy and all the land and all the trees belong to the king? Do you have moral/ethical right to steal fruit from the king's trees? There are very few private trees around where I am. This app lists a lot of trees in public spaces around me - trees I never gave a second thought…

how would you feel if someone stole your car? that is private property

Oh of course I'd be upset! (I don't have a car, but will entertain your theoretical scenario.)

If someone stole fruit from my tree I'd be upset too!

Re: Food is free if you know where to look

#50
There is a documentary I watched called "dive" a few years back which had a guy feeding his entire family with food he could get from the dumpsters of grocery stores. And it was not just unhealthy stuff. Fruits which were almost ripe like bananas are thrown out. The food wastage gives a good opportunity for free meals if we know where to look.
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