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Disney to Bundle Disney+, Hulu, & ESPN+ for 12.99, Same Price as Netflix

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Re: Disney to Bundle Disney+, Hulu, & ESPN+ for 12.99, Same Price as Netflix

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another way to think about this: huge potential for a competitor. It's not like Disney has a moat for creativity. Blair Witch project cost something like $100K

Compare the number of times you or your kids have sat down in front of your TV and wanted to watch Blair Witch, vs the number of times you or your kids have wanted to watch Beauty and the Beast, Alladin, Frozen, Lion King, Star Wars, or Avengers. For me it is not even close.

Like the other poster said, random weird shit on YouTube is more common than Disney in my house

Re: Disney to Bundle Disney+, Hulu, & ESPN+ for 12.99, Same Price as Netflix

#43

Is there more information about what the Disney+ catalog will include? It says that 2019 and future releases will be exclusive to Disney+ (though of course you can still buy individual movies, just not stream them), but I wonder about the rest of their catalog. Will all Star Wars movies be available? All other Disney-owned movies? I can't tell whether I'm surprised the price is so low (three things for the price of N…

It's fairly obviously a lower price to build share that will be ratcheted up, especially as the content offering improves.

But the same can be said for Netflix's current pricing.

Re: Disney to Bundle Disney+, Hulu, & ESPN+ for 12.99, Same Price as Netflix

#44
post #21

Will people accept paying for yet another streaming service? The selling point of Spotify is that for a low price you get everything in one place. Netflix was like that (from what I heard), but now you have HBO, Disney, CMore etc. Do you want to subscribe to (and use) multiple services (provided you can afford it)? Or will there be a backlash soon?

> Netflix was like that (from what I heard)

It wasn't. Never even close tbh, and anyone who claimed otherwise is wearing glasses so rose-tinted as to be opaque.

Re: Disney to Bundle Disney+, Hulu, & ESPN+ for 12.99, Same Price as Netflix

#45
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spending billions of borrowed dollars on junky “original” content was the beginning of the end for Netflix.

I always thought they should have spent some of those billions to acquire some existing entertainment companies and get some more back catalog. Not everyone likes to watch new stuff. (And even when it comes to making new stuff–a lot of what Disney is doing is building on stuff they already own rather than totally new content-easy for Disney when they own outright so much back catalog.)

You don't just get free back catalogue if you buy someone else. Residual agreements often force you to sell to the highest bidder regardless, there are hosts of pre-existing deals for multiple years, and your shareholders will ask why you paid so much money for a company and then took away the way they make revenue (selling the shows to other people).

Re: Disney to Bundle Disney+, Hulu, & ESPN+ for 12.99, Same Price as Netflix

#46

Is there more information about what the Disney+ catalog will include? It says that 2019 and future releases will be exclusive to Disney+ (though of course you can still buy individual movies, just not stream them), but I wonder about the rest of their catalog. Will all Star Wars movies be available? All other Disney-owned movies? I can't tell whether I'm surprised the price is so low (three things for the price of N…

It's fairly obviously a lower price to build share that will be ratcheted up, especially as the content offering improves. But the same can be said for Netflix's current pricing.

The difference is that Netflix depends on subscription revenue (and a ton of debt) to pay for content. Most of the content on Disney+ has already made millions from being in the movie theatre, home releases/VOD, etc.

Re: Disney to Bundle Disney+, Hulu, & ESPN+ for 12.99, Same Price as Netflix

#47

(disclaimer without details, I have a horse in this race) This is a really good deal, frankly. Tons of content on demand on virtually every platform, good quality streaming, and with decent UI/UX. I know a lot of folks are put off by the consolidation in the media industry, and the whole question mark over how streaming services don't violate the Paramount consent decree, but still. I don't feel like I'm getting had…

I'm realistic and I know that the purchase of Lucasfilm and Marvel gave these studios a new life. But let's fce it: without these two, Disney is just an animation studio from the previous epoch with to attractive content to offer for people who aren't kids. That said, maybe it's better if small kids watch the newest Lion King rather than hundreds of unboxing videos...

As long as you ignore the theme parks, ABC, ESPN, and the other movie studios under Disney. It’s also because Disney doesn’t screw up acquisitions like most companies do.

Re: Disney to Bundle Disney+, Hulu, & ESPN+ for 12.99, Same Price as Netflix

#48
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spending billions of borrowed dollars on junky “original” content was the beginning of the end for Netflix.

I always thought they should have spent some of those billions to acquire some existing entertainment companies and get some more back catalog. Not everyone likes to watch new stuff. (And even when it comes to making new stuff–a lot of what Disney is doing is building on stuff they already own rather than totally new content-easy for Disney when they own outright so much back catalog.)

None of them are cheap enough

Re: Disney to Bundle Disney+, Hulu, & ESPN+ for 12.99, Same Price as Netflix

#49

Most Disney movies are terrible IMO, minus some of the classics and occasionally good animation. I don't really care for sports. These services are still way cheaper than cable but no where as customizable as I'd like. I think they rely on bored people willing to watch whatever is suggested or available. I'd gladly pay $15 a month for a service that really focuses on quality educational content.

“Quality educational content” is not a mass market. The cable channels that use to focus on educational content like TLC all moved into cheap reality TV.

Re: Disney to Bundle Disney+, Hulu, & ESPN+ for 12.99, Same Price as Netflix

#50

Don't know about you guys, but I'm back to sailing the high seas. Netflix was terrific when it had a deep backlog of old good content. Now it's mostly junk originals with the sheen of cheap that's hard to qualify. And I won't subscribe to Disney+ on principle haha - I can't see myself supporting and encouraging more power to the huge blob corporation.

But you were okay supporting Netflix when they were funneling money to the same huge blob corporations?
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