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How the Stock Market Works

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Re: How the Stock Market Works

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post #32

I was expecting something a lot more detailed. I got to the end and was wondering if this was the first part of a series, since it's nowhere near "everything" anyone would want to know about the stock market. It's barely an introduction. Then there are the inaccuracies. Zero-sum game? No. Derivatives are "a bet on the rate of change" in value? No. Brokers "help you execute a trade at the best possible price"? Well...…

Yeah, this really isn't a good article.

Re: How the Stock Market Works

#42
post #27

"Just like how taking the derivative of a function gives you the slope, a derivative in finance is a bet on the rate of change of the value of a stock, or a bond, or an index." No. That is just completely wrong. A derivative is a financial instrument that derives value from other things. As an aside, the derivatives market is far bigger than the stock market.

I think the writer was trying to write something cute and smart there with that connection, if only it was actually correct.

Re: How the Stock Market Works

#43
post #32

I was expecting something a lot more detailed. I got to the end and was wondering if this was the first part of a series, since it's nowhere near "everything" anyone would want to know about the stock market. It's barely an introduction. Then there are the inaccuracies. Zero-sum game? No. Derivatives are "a bet on the rate of change" in value? No. Brokers "help you execute a trade at the best possible price"? Well...…

I think the writer has confused themselves while attempting to simplify some of these concepts. Instead they should have accepted the financial market is complicated and cannot be condensed into a single blog post.

Re: How the Stock Market Works

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Stock is equity in a company. A stock market is where, by and large, publicly listed stock is traded. So why then, all this talk of bonds and governments? Most debt does not trade on a stock market, but via other mechanisms. The author doesn’t have a good definition of “stock” which is worrisome in the extreme.

Re: How the Stock Market Works

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“It’s a zero-sum game, because there are always winners and losers in the stock market.” Is this true, outside of options? Most people are long and the stock market has always been on an uptrend.

No, it is not true. It is not true for options either. The zero-sum trading game fallacy is a common misperception.

For any kind of asset, the ability to transfer it has value. When someone needs to buy a new car, they often sell their old car to a dealer at a price that is lower than what they could get if they sold it to another individual. They do it because it is more convenient and/or they can't wait around for the right buyer to come along. A dealer has a better idea of the car's value and is willing to put it into inventory until someone buys it at a higher price. He takes a risk he might have to wait longer than expected to sell it again (which incurs more inventory cost), but he trades a lot of cars, so on average, his relative risk is lower than yours would be. He essentially charges you a fair price for this service. Even though technically you might say you lost on the deal, both sides are winners if the price was reasonable.

In a similar way, a stock trade can be a win-win situation. One trader may be willing to do the transaction at a discount because they have a better way to use the money or because they need to reduce their risk. Another trader may know more about the stock and/or have a different risk profile, so he is willing to take the risk of holding the asset until a profitable transaction is possible. This provides a win-win for both sides if the charge for the service is reasonable.

Of course, there are traders who are detrimental to a market and provide no value, just as there are crooked car dealers. That doesn't invalidate the value of good trading just as it doesn't invalidate the value of good car dealing.

Re: How the Stock Market Works

#47
post #28

One thing that you have to in your life is to choose your risk exposure to typical assets: cash, bonds (in particular long term bonds), stocks, real estate, and maybe commodities (like gold, or maybe Bitcoin for the courageous). Sharpe ratio is a good way to measure risk/return. You have 100% at any given point, where does it go? Not buying anything is going 100% cash. That's why you have to do it - you're always in…

Mortgages have the advantage that you can't get margin called at an inopportune moment.

Re: How the Stock Market Works

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post #47
post #28

One thing that you have to in your life is to choose your risk exposure to typical assets: cash, bonds (in particular long term bonds), stocks, real estate, and maybe commodities (like gold, or maybe Bitcoin for the courageous). Sharpe ratio is a good way to measure risk/return. You have 100% at any given point, where does it go? Not buying anything is going 100% cash. That's why you have to do it - you're always in…

Mortgages have the advantage that you can't get margin called at an inopportune moment.

But the bank that has your mortgage on their balance sheet can get margin called. Ask Lehman Brothers how does that happen :)

Re: How the Stock Market Works

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post #47
post #28

One thing that you have to in your life is to choose your risk exposure to typical assets: cash, bonds (in particular long term bonds), stocks, real estate, and maybe commodities (like gold, or maybe Bitcoin for the courageous). Sharpe ratio is a good way to measure risk/return. You have 100% at any given point, where does it go? Not buying anything is going 100% cash. That's why you have to do it - you're always in…

Mortgages have the advantage that you can't get margin called at an inopportune moment.

I heard through a realtor / friend that during '08 there were some home equity loans that were called back though. I don't know the exact details of those who had their HEL's called but my friend stressed that mortgages would never be called back (unless capitalism collapses) but HEL's could be even if you're making on-time payments depending on terms.
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