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Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by applecrazy » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 9:11 PM UTC

jes5199 wrote: post #28

applecrazy wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems more like an individual opinion rather than market data. The Apple Watch is the world's most popular watch. AirPods have exploded in popularity among youth as a status symbol. Both are selling relatively well, even if you may think they're inferior products.

“most popular watch” is not really a high bar, is it?

5-7 million units sold per quarter and 36% market share in the smartwatch category[1] isn't enough for you?

[1]: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/02/apple-watch-1q19-market...

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by ilikehurdles » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 9:12 PM UTC

Apple beat out EPS and Revenue estimates and the stock is trading up in after-hours. This is a headline for the cap-wearing anti-Tech Company crowd, as has been typical of the New York Times over the last year or two.

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by brlewis » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 9:12 PM UTC

jes5199 wrote: post #17

sxcurry wrote: post #7

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Except for AirPods, Apple Watch, .....

nobody wants those. AirPods are expensive, ugly earbuds that you have to recharge for some reason, and the watch is just a way for your phone to distract you more frequently.

>the watch is just a way for your phone to distract you more frequently

I use a smartwatch and as a result my phone stays in my pocket a lot more.

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by earenndil » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 9:13 PM UTC

Areading314 wrote: post #37

S_A_P wrote: post #32

I have thought long and hard about upgrading my iPhone 8 to one of the new X models, but I don't like the lack of a home button. I guess I am officially old now, but I dont want to look at my phone to unlock it. I like that I can reach in my pocket, and unlock it with my thumb as I retrieve it. It may be user error, but I see several co-workers have to really train the phone on their face to unlock with Face ID. That…

It's fine. At least on the new Galaxy phones, the haptic feedback works almost like its a real button (and I'm assuming it's similar on the iphone).

Iphones 7 and 8 already have a 'virtual' home button using haptic feedback--I assume this is what you mean. X-factor iphones use a gesture-based system instead of any kind of button.

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by justicezyx » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 9:13 PM UTC

liberte82 wrote: post #18

rat9988 wrote: post #12

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How many times did steve jobs disrupt the industry?

iPod iPhone no disk drive UNIX-based OS goes mainstream first mainstream OS with a GUI iMac - making PC's 'friendly' iTunes - made it cool to pay for music again To name a few.

Anything except first two is not that impressive...

And iPhone is built on top of years of speculation and foundational change in material and wireless infrastructure.

But the point is that apple now no longer needs to grow like jobs era. And for all good will, I see no chance for jobs to pull out new things equally big as iPhone anyway. But some can believe that regardless.

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by buzzerbetrayed » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 9:13 PM UTC

liberte82 wrote: post #18

rat9988 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many times did steve jobs disrupt the industry?

iPod iPhone no disk drive UNIX-based OS goes mainstream first mainstream OS with a GUI iMac - making PC's 'friendly' iTunes - made it cool to pay for music again To name a few.

I'm not sure how "no disk drive" disrupted the industry more than Airpods and Apple Watch.

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by uwuhn » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 9:13 PM UTC

I would pay lots of money for an Apple Bluetooth Mechanical keyboard. Like $300+ easily if it's good.

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by mffnbs » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 9:13 PM UTC

liberte82 wrote: post #18

rat9988 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many times did steve jobs disrupt the industry?

iPod iPhone no disk drive UNIX-based OS goes mainstream first mainstream OS with a GUI iMac - making PC's 'friendly' iTunes - made it cool to pay for music again To name a few.

> UNIX-based OS goes mainstream

What are you crediting Jobs with? What does this mean? It seems like your list fell apart after the first 3 concrete things you listed, the rest are just random things you like about Apple.

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by threeseed » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 9:13 PM UTC

sxcurry wrote: post #7

liberte82 wrote: post #4

Apple has been stagnant since Steve Jobs died. His momentum keeps the company moving forward, but they haven't had a fresh idea since he passed.

Except for AirPods, Apple Watch, .....

Services.

In Job's era that revenue was almost 0%. Now it's 21%.

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by j2bax » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 9:14 PM UTC

S_A_P wrote: post #32

I have thought long and hard about upgrading my iPhone 8 to one of the new X models, but I don't like the lack of a home button. I guess I am officially old now, but I dont want to look at my phone to unlock it. I like that I can reach in my pocket, and unlock it with my thumb as I retrieve it. It may be user error, but I see several co-workers have to really train the phone on their face to unlock with Face ID. That…

I was skeptical as well coming from my iPhone 6+ to the Xs... but it turns out that it just works and works fine. I wasn't missing my home button after about a day or two. Switching between iPad and iPhone is slightly awkward now, as I am sometimes waiting for my iPad to unlock on facial recognition and it never happens.