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US Visa Forms DS-160, 260 Has Social Media Questions Now – Samples

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Re: US Visa Forms DS-160, 260 Has Social Media Questions Now – Samples

#41

Post by gruez »

Someone1234 wrote: post #20

I literally could not fill this out without perjuring myself. They say you need to list even unknown/closed/deleted accounts for the last five years. I don't know them all. This either feels like an out of touch attempt by an older generation who doesn't understand social media (only uses Facebook, etc), or a huge honey trap tricking people into inadvertently "lying" to the USG. They can then use these mistakes to th…

>a huge honey trap tricking people into inadvertently "lying" to the USG. They can then use these mistakes to then revoke anyone's status after the fact at a whim (inc. for political reasons).

Doesn't the USG have to prove that you were lying in court? Or can they cite that your information is incorrect and immediately deport you?

Re: US Visa Forms DS-160, 260 Has Social Media Questions Now – Samples

#42

Post by novok »

qaq wrote: post #38
morpheuskafka wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's even more ridiculous given the level of surveillance on the outbound side they have these days. There's no way someone could leave the country and then re-enter without CBP knowing.

? you can just walk to mexico in San Diego there is no control on US side.

Mexico probably talks to the usa in that case

Re: US Visa Forms DS-160, 260 Has Social Media Questions Now – Samples

#43

Post by Someone1234 »

gruez wrote: post #41
Someone1234 wrote: post #20

I literally could not fill this out without perjuring myself. They say you need to list even unknown/closed/deleted accounts for the last five years. I don't know them all. This either feels like an out of touch attempt by an older generation who doesn't understand social media (only uses Facebook, etc), or a huge honey trap tricking people into inadvertently "lying" to the USG. They can then use these mistakes to th…

>a huge honey trap tricking people into inadvertently "lying" to the USG. They can then use these mistakes to then revoke anyone's status after the fact at a whim (inc. for political reasons). Doesn't the USG have to prove that you were lying in court? Or can they cite that your information is incorrect and immediately deport you?

An immigration court isn't a real court. It is an executive "court" with appointed judges (essentially employees) and no judicial oversight.

If you think of the three branches of government, immigration proceedings are squarely under the executive, the same branch trying to deport people.

Re: US Visa Forms DS-160, 260 Has Social Media Questions Now – Samples

#45

Post by EGreg »

r32a_ wrote: post #21
oneplane wrote: post #12

I wonder why the US sees everyone who is not from the US as having a lower worth or being a lower class or something like that. Even the laws are constructed around that...

It's not like that, Within the U.S itself some people have higher worth than others. Look at their medical system for example. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

When people would pull my girlfriend for random checks, I used to joke:

Some travelers are random

But others are more random than others ;-)

Re: US Visa Forms DS-160, 260 Has Social Media Questions Now – Samples

#46

Post by rayiner »

gruez wrote: post #41
Someone1234 wrote: post #20

I literally could not fill this out without perjuring myself. They say you need to list even unknown/closed/deleted accounts for the last five years. I don't know them all. This either feels like an out of touch attempt by an older generation who doesn't understand social media (only uses Facebook, etc), or a huge honey trap tricking people into inadvertently "lying" to the USG. They can then use these mistakes to th…

>a huge honey trap tricking people into inadvertently "lying" to the USG. They can then use these mistakes to then revoke anyone's status after the fact at a whim (inc. for political reasons). Doesn't the USG have to prove that you were lying in court? Or can they cite that your information is incorrect and immediately deport you?

The standard require both willfulness and materiality. Forgetting to list an account wouldn’t count. Deliberately omitting an account that, had it been timely revealed, wouldn’t likely have changed the decision also won’t count.

Re: US Visa Forms DS-160, 260 Has Social Media Questions Now – Samples

#47

Post by rayiner »

Someone1234 wrote: post #43
gruez wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>a huge honey trap tricking people into inadvertently "lying" to the USG. They can then use these mistakes to then revoke anyone's status after the fact at a whim (inc. for political reasons). Doesn't the USG have to prove that you were lying in court? Or can they cite that your information is incorrect and immediately deport you?

An immigration court isn't a real court. It is an executive "court" with appointed judges (essentially employees) and no judicial oversight. If you think of the three branches of government, immigration proceedings are squarely under the executive, the same branch trying to deport people.

Not true. Immigration determinations are appealable, with certain limitations, to the circuit courts of appeal.

Re: US Visa Forms DS-160, 260 Has Social Media Questions Now – Samples

#48

Post by humbleMouse »

josu wrote: post #14

The only silver lining is that they still have to ask. In the direction we are going, in a few years they will both know and have access to all your social media accounts.

This is the most prolific and dark comment on this thread.

Re: US Visa Forms DS-160, 260 Has Social Media Questions Now – Samples

#49

Post by Spooky23 »

robteix wrote: post #3

What happens when you lose an account now? Or if you close an account on a service that doesn't reserve usernames (e.g. Twitter)? All of a sudden someone is using "yourname" on twitter to say something the US immigration officers don't like. That's not far fetched at all

You report it.

Re: US Visa Forms DS-160, 260 Has Social Media Questions Now – Samples

#50

Post by rayiner »

oneplane wrote: post #12

I wonder why the US sees everyone who is not from the US as having a lower worth or being a lower class or something like that. Even the laws are constructed around that...

Not at all. The US simply distinguished between people who have a right to be here, and people who are allowed to be here by the grace of the government. Its not like the Swiss don’t have to answer these questions. It’s a sovereign entity enforcing its right of exclusion.
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