Ask HN: Recommendations for AI generated music software? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations for AI generated music software?

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Post by qpiox » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 1:39 PM UTC

alexbainter wrote: post #23

luckman212 wrote: post #7

Not sure if this helps at all, but here's one that was featured here on HN not too long ago: https://generative.fm/

Thanks for sharing this, I'm the author of Generative.fm and the music systems on it. Just wanted to pop in to tell OP that there's a recording feature built in to the site, and everyone is free to use the recordings for whatever they'd like - I just ask that you give attribution (it's licensed under CC-BY 4.0). Though, there's no configuration and I don't use AI, if that matters. EDIT: I forgot to mention it's free,…

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Re: Ask HN: Recommendations for AI generated music software?

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Post by qpiox » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 1:44 PM UTC

In order to use an AI generator, it has to be fed with music that is in the style you like so that a model is created and trained. The question of copyright and plagiarism in such a case is not really clearly defined. The patterns it will generate will not be same as existing ones, but can sound or seem similar. As if the "AI composer" was influenced by the original song composers.

Has anyone any comments regarding such issues?

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations for AI generated music software?

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Post by m3at » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 1:45 PM UTC

Not "AI" generated, but generated nonetheless, this HN thread from a few months back should be pretty helpful :

"Generative.fm – Endlessly unique ambient music" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19397817

Be careful: this thread is great, I spent a full evening digging into the various links people posted. You've been warned.

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations for AI generated music software?

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Post by Man_On_the_Moon » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 1:46 PM UTC

p1esk wrote: post #39

Man_On_the_Moon wrote: post #34

I run a company that tries to solve your problem! We haven’t done a big public launch yet - but we use AI techniques to compose work for existing clients (think businesses + Youtube video creators). We try to take all friction out of the process. Here’s how it works: You send link to your video. Tell us what emotions you want / any requirements (we have a simple form). Our AI engine then structures and creates a song…

What if a client does not like the result?

We deliver a demo first. Clients can then request any changes before we lock it in as final. Clients can also send links to music they like and we try to achieve a similar sound.

It's a good point though - we work on a small scale now. We haven't thought through all the details once we start taking new clients. One free revision seems like our most likely approach.

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations for AI generated music software?

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Post by Somniloquist » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 1:52 PM UTC

Check out Amper:

https://www.ampermusic.com/

My good friend created the tech. They use a lot of custom acoustic instrument samples and some sound synthesis driven by Haskell and SuperCollider. No neural nets or machine learning involved (which is what most people seem to mean by "AI" these days), it's mostly rules based, with a large and byzantine rule set which has been cultivated, so some may call it Algorithmic or Generative music.

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations for AI generated music software?

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Post by el_cujo » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 1:57 PM UTC

Not quite "AI generated", but Dunc's Algomusic[0] is free. I don't think you have THAT much control over how it sounds beyond picking different seed inputs. I find it especially great for weird/unsettling background music. Not sure if there is a built in way to export tracks but there is probably some way to use another app to record it.

[0] https://marasmusine.itch.io/duncs-algomusic

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations for AI generated music software?

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Post by edraferi » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 1:57 PM UTC

Somniloquist wrote: post #45

Check out Amper: https://www.ampermusic.com/ My good friend created the tech. They use a lot of custom acoustic instrument samples and some sound synthesis driven by Haskell and SuperCollider. No neural nets or machine learning involved (which is what most people seem to mean by "AI" these days), it's mostly rules based, with a large and byzantine rule set which has been cultivated, so some may call it Algorithmic or…

Looks cool, but has a contact form instead of a price sheet.

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations for AI generated music software?

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Post by nairobi222 » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 2:10 PM UTC

Simple to describe, not accomplish. Think about the sheer amount of genres/sub-genres, what you're describing can probably be done in a few popular genres by some ML algorithm.. But are the results good enough?

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations for AI generated music software?

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Post by p1esk » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 2:11 PM UTC

blueboo wrote: post #30

Royalty-free soundtrack music is incredibly cheap. It would be faster, better, and cheaper to buy what you want.

How cheap?

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations for AI generated music software?

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Post by cafogleman » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 2:33 PM UTC

Its implementation may be a bit academic for what you're looking for, but Watson Beat (https://github.com/cognitive-catalyst/watson-beat) can generate music given a seed melody a number of configurable parameters.

All output is in MIDI files, and by default need to be glued together manually (though I suspect this could be automated).

I've also wondered how interesting this could get if it could be configured to dynamically feed the generated melodies back in as the seed, effectively evolving the music over time while remaining somewhat familiar from one adaptation to the next.