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How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by mattigames »

smnrchrds wrote: post #6

Dear devs, Please stop using Google Cloud Platform to host your projects. GCP blocks Iran, so by hosting any part of the app on GCP, your apps become impossible to access from Iran. Azure and AWS do not do this. This form of blocking is exclusive to GCP. After the switch to GCP, Iranians lost access to gitlab. Firefox Monitor is blocked in Iran for the same reason. The list goes on and on. I don't believe Mozilla tea…

Or... maybe developers should not play the games the Iran goverment want them to play and every effort should go towards throwing the current dictatorship not to stop using what they want us to stop using?

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by neom »

emilsedgh wrote: post #34
ilaksh wrote: post #27

Its an ongoing war. Just without bullets. My concern is that people will see him mention things like censorship and for them that will justify an invasion that results in mass killing and destruction. Does anyone know exactly what sort of actual submission they are looking for from Iran? I really don't believe its about nuclear development. I hope that any Iranians who can get out will get out.

Iranian living in the U.S. here. During Obama it was: We will choke you to death unless you give up your nuclear ambitions. Now it is: We will choke you to death unless you shoot yourself in the head. U.S. is bullying Iran right now and people are starving to death. All because of a partisan issue. Unbelievable.

Nothing has been learned since the 50s it would seem. Unbelievable indeed.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by smnrchrds »

Thaxll wrote: post #37
smnrchrds wrote: post #6

Dear devs, Please stop using Google Cloud Platform to host your projects. GCP blocks Iran, so by hosting any part of the app on GCP, your apps become impossible to access from Iran. Azure and AWS do not do this. This form of blocking is exclusive to GCP. After the switch to GCP, Iranians lost access to gitlab. Firefox Monitor is blocked in Iran for the same reason. The list goes on and on. I don't believe Mozilla tea…

Every US companies must block Iran, it's not Google it's everyone. https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/programs/... https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Sanctions/Page... 630. Is the provision or delivery of goods or services to an Iranian counterparty after November 4, 2018 allowed? The wind-down period has ended and the United States intends to fully enforce the sanctions that have come back…

> Every US companies must block Iran,

This does not seem correct. Here is a short non-comprehensive list of services by US companies not blocked in Iran. The list is big enough, and the companies involved large and legally-savvy enough, that this cannot be an oversight.

* Gmail, Yahoo Mail, Outlook

* Google Maps, Waze (quite popular right now in Iran too!)

* Google Drive, Dropbox, OneDrive

* Github

* Google Keep

* Google Docs, Zoho

* ...

The complete list would be hundreds or thousands of pages long. Based on this, I don't think your assertion is correct. Either that, or every big US company is breaking sanctions on Iran with impunity. That does not seem plausible.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by tehjoker »

While the Iranian regime is somewhat less than perfect, the US has no business interfering in that region. The establishment reason for tensions is to protect (nuclear armed) Israel and oil (with some other knock on oil based relationships like SA). Guess what though, Israel has nukes and we desperately need to stop using oil as soon as possible. Why not just drop sanctions and stop tearing up perfectly good nuclear deals?

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by Thaxll »

smnrchrds wrote: post #45
Thaxll wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every US companies must block Iran, it's not Google it's everyone. https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/programs/... https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Sanctions/Page... 630. Is the provision or delivery of goods or services to an Iranian counterparty after November 4, 2018 allowed? The wind-down period has ended and the United States intends to fully enforce the sanctions that have come back…

> Every US companies must block Iran, This does not seem correct. Here is a short non-comprehensive list of services by US companies not blocked in Iran. The list is big enough, and the companies involved large and legally-savvy enough, that this cannot be an oversight. * Gmail, Yahoo Mail, Outlook * Google Maps, Waze (quite popular right now in Iran too!) * Google Drive, Dropbox, OneDrive * Github * Google Keep * Go…

I don't know what are the details but I worked for a major company and they didn't even try to see if the service was against embargo they just blocked it. Gmail might not be blocked but can you create an email?

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by user5994461 »

smnrchrds wrote: post #29
user5994461 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dear dev, Please disregard the message above. USA and Europe too are forbidding you to sell to Iran and a couple of countries. Google is doing you a favor by blocking traffic out of the box. If they didn't do it, you would most likely have to block it yourself. There are official documents listing items and services you're not allowed to provide with how many years of jails you're risking. Just because you don't know…

Google is not blocking access to Google Search, or Gmail, or Calendar, Drive, Photos, Maps, etc. Only access to dev tools (e.g. Android Tools) is blocked. I am not a lawyer, but my understanding, based on the actions of companies with larger legal teams than most companies have employees, is that only a tiny portion of the apps need to be blocked in Iran to be compliant with the sanctions. Simplenote (hosted on GCP)…

Quick rule of thumb, as soon as you're dealing with any payment or physical good, you're in quasi certain prohibited territory. That goes for EU countries too that could be considered somewhat chilled in comparison to the US.

Hence all businesses should be blocking Iran really, contrary to what you are implying... unless you have a magic business that sells nothing and earns no money. A note taking app might just fly, or not.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by strooper »

Dear Iranian devs, let's learn to take advantage of the situation instead of complaining about it. Why not learn from the devs in China?! To my knowledge, China blocks no less online service than Iran. China monitors citizens' online activities in ways that very few other countries can. Yet their internet services flourish and engage users in ways nowhere else is seen.

Let's build/clone fancy/popular services locally instead. Haven't we seen how big opportunity that is financially? Doesn't that bring freedom from both the controlfreak regime and sanction-imposing regime?

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