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Re: Kod.app is open source

#42
post #31

Anyone use this? Pros/cons vs Textmate/vim/emacs?

It's not comparable at all, though it could be after a few man years of work.

Crashes on quit. In C mode, hitting return doesn't indent. No preferences. No toolbars or widget menus. It does attempt to color keywords but this doesn't really work, with "in" in "int" being blue and the "t" inexplicably being white, etc.

It's a text editor with fewer features than TextEdit. No idea what the big deal is. It's description as version 0.02 seems accurate.

Re: Kod.app is open source

#43
post #7

Sadly, it is a precious snowflake license (MIT + Custom term) with a very ambiguous custom term: "The Software and/or source code cannot be copied in whole and sold without meaningful modification for a profit." Great to see it semi-open source, and well within the rights of the author, though :-)

woudlnd it be easier to just use CC BY-NC-SA ?

Re: Kod.app is open source

#44
post #19

Looks nice. One note: It says it requires MacPorts. You should probably say it requires the source-highlight package, regardless of how you get it. (I'm going to install via Homebrew, some might compile it manually.)

It's worth noting that you can just install the app binary.

Compiling it is for people that want to hack the source themselves, it's not the main distribution method.

Re: Kod.app is open source

#45
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you say so. :( That it will be worth the wait till I skip 10.6 and upgrade straight to Lion. Was looking forward to using something shiny.

Why'd you skip 10.6? It was $30.

There's no such thing as a trivial OS upgrade, and so long as 10.5 is supported and runs the stuff I need to run, I don't have a compelling reason to go to the trouble of upgrading.

Re: Kod.app is open source

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why'd you skip 10.6? It was $30.

There's no such thing as a trivial OS upgrade, and so long as 10.5 is supported and runs the stuff I need to run, I don't have a compelling reason to go to the trouble of upgrading.

... except some software that's 10.6 only? ;)

Re: Kod.app is open source

#47
post #7

Sadly, it is a precious snowflake license (MIT + Custom term) with a very ambiguous custom term: "The Software and/or source code cannot be copied in whole and sold without meaningful modification for a profit." Great to see it semi-open source, and well within the rights of the author, though :-)

So by definition, this is not Open Source. Unfortunately, the author claims to have done so nevertheless:

http://groups.google.com/group/kod-app/browse_thread/thread/...

It is a very questionable practice to claim to have produced Free Software / Open Source, when in fact this isn't the case. That's misleading marketing, if not unfair competition. Such practices are especially unfair on the huge number of authors and companies who really produce Open Source software.

The terms "Open Source" as well as "Free Software" have a well-defined meaning that includes giving others the right to distribute the software and to make a buck with it. If you don't like that, it's okay. You may still claim to have switched to "more liberal license" or something like that. But you may never claim to have switched to Open Source. That's not okay, because it is a plain lie.

I find it especially strange that the reason for this unfair behavior against competitors is to receive more fairness from competitors. That's a clear case of double standards.

Re: Kod.app is open source

#48
post #19

Looks nice. One note: It says it requires MacPorts. You should probably say it requires the source-highlight package, regardless of how you get it. (I'm going to install via Homebrew, some might compile it manually.)

It's worth noting that you can just install the app binary. Compiling it is for people that want to hack the source themselves, it's not the main distribution method.

==> http://kodapp.com/download/

Re: Kod.app is open source

#49
post #4

If TextMate 2.0 is not released soon (or doesn't meet expectations), MacroMates is in trouble.

And by "MacroMates" you mean the singular developer who works on it who has probably already made a small fortune from TextMate 1.x licenses and has said a few times that TextMate development is a "hobby". I don't think he's in any sort of trouble.

IIRC he did get stressed out by expectation and some blog nastiness, and at another time made a somewhat rash commitment to TM2 being a free upgrade. Perhaps Duke-Nukem status is finally accepted but I don't think things have always been so chilled.

Re: Kod.app is open source

#50
post #8

I'm not quite sure how/why you think this is news. Something going open source historically means 99% death. I really hope you get to be that 1% of the lucky ones... but...

Something not going open source historically also means 99% death.

99% of all software die, whether open source or closed source. Not sure what point you're trying to make. The (flawed) point that something will die because it's open source?

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