Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court • Hacker News Board

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by sct202 » Sat, Jul 06, 2019, 7:35 PM UTC

BubRoss wrote: post #9

jnbiche wrote: post #4

The amazing things is that this guy -- an obvious fraud and conman -- has been invited to numerous high-level Bitcoin/Blockchain conferences as a speaker. It always stuns me how relatively few people are able to spot frauds (although it explains a lot about our current political situation). I'm guessing 40-50% of the population is susceptible to this kind of trickery.

Part of it has been the tribalism of him going against the obvious weasels that ousted the original Bitcoin team to keep the blocksize low, the transaction fees high and get VC funding for their company that they would market by saying it was the 'people that were in charge of bitcoin' Some of the people who hated those weasels decided that Craig Wright must be great since he says he is against the same people. Inste…

Some of his supporters might just find him convenient for now. Like at work, sometimes I back people up who I don't really like or trust because at this moment they are doing something that is aligned with me, and it really isn't worth the effort to try to tear them down versus just going with it and dealing with them later if I have to.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by trollied » Sat, Jul 06, 2019, 7:38 PM UTC

At the end of the day, all he needs to do is use the Satoshi key on a transaction on the bitcoin blockchain to prove everything.

He hasn’t and can’t.

Am I wrong?

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by naveen99 » Sat, Jul 06, 2019, 7:39 PM UTC

Long read, hopefully movie comes out at some point: https://www.docdroid.net/5LZMLHb/06-28-19-ber-kleiman.pdf

So keys to satoshi’s Bitcoins are possibly going to be available in 2020 according to Wright.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by astronautjones » Sat, Jul 06, 2019, 7:41 PM UTC

BubRoss wrote: post #24

nullc wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling out fraudsters also gets you attacked and harassed and there is essentially nothing you can do to stop it.

Generally you only get attacked by those fraudsters.

or their entire personality cult/political party

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by dboreham » Sat, Jul 06, 2019, 7:47 PM UTC

BubRoss wrote: post #24

nullc wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling out fraudsters also gets you attacked and harassed and there is essentially nothing you can do to stop it.

Generally you only get attacked by those fraudsters.

Hmm...go back and look at how the Theranos debacle played out.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by vintermann » Sat, Jul 06, 2019, 7:47 PM UTC

Pretending to be vastly richer than you really are happens to be the first step in a large number of confidence games.

In case anyone wonders why someone would want to pretend they're Satoshi.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by DonHopkins » Sat, Jul 06, 2019, 7:49 PM UTC

Lucadg wrote: post #25

jnbiche wrote: post #4

The amazing things is that this guy -- an obvious fraud and conman -- has been invited to numerous high-level Bitcoin/Blockchain conferences as a speaker. It always stuns me how relatively few people are able to spot frauds (although it explains a lot about our current political situation). I'm guessing 40-50% of the population is susceptible to this kind of trickery.

I guess it has to do with the fact that when organizing a conference many optimize for speakers attracting crowds rather than content.

People relate to BitCoin conferences more like ComicCon.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by iso-8859-1 » Sat, Jul 06, 2019, 7:59 PM UTC

trollied wrote: post #42

At the end of the day, all he needs to do is use the Satoshi key on a transaction on the bitcoin blockchain to prove everything. He hasn’t and can’t. Am I wrong?

See the court records, he claims he can't do it because he distributed the key parts or something.

Since it is hard to prove that someone cannot do something, yes, technically you are wrong.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by anm89 » Sat, Jul 06, 2019, 8:00 PM UTC

samcday wrote: post #2

The whole story seems so bizarre. As far as I understand it, some kind of fraudster got caught up in a bunch of his own lies, of which being the inventor of Bitcoin happened to be one. We're only reading about it because "Bitcoin" happens to be a frothy buzzword that gets the clicks. Otherwise this would just be some local news case about a wacky person saying the darndest things. It's funny how we decide what's news…

There is also a pretty substantial amount of money wrapped up in this case. Billions of dollars. I would say that's somewhat newsworthy for a lawsuit involving individual people.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by danaos » Sat, Jul 06, 2019, 8:02 PM UTC

jnbiche wrote: post #4

The amazing things is that this guy -- an obvious fraud and conman -- has been invited to numerous high-level Bitcoin/Blockchain conferences as a speaker. It always stuns me how relatively few people are able to spot frauds (although it explains a lot about our current political situation). I'm guessing 40-50% of the population is susceptible to this kind of trickery.

His home was actually raided by Australian police right after news[1] broke that he may be Satoshi Nakamoto.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-f...