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Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

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Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

#41
post #26

Looks like an external issue. "The Cloud Networking service (Standard Tier) has lost multiple independent fiber links within us-east1 zone. Vendor has been notified and are currently investigating the issue."

It’s surprisingly hard to avoid shared fate links and it’s one of the things I would have thought google would be expert at.

Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

#42
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't follow comments like these, should people refrain from criticising giant companies because there are people working at them? I don't understand the purpose of this comment

Complaining about the communication and response time of a company is different from yelling in the direction of some stressed engineer that they are useless and incompetent at everything they do. Sadly you get too much of the latter around the Internet.

Who is yelling in the direction of the "stressed engineer"? Does anybody have direct channel to those guys or you think they rigorously monitor the comment section of HN in the middle of an outage for yelling?

Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

#43

To whomever commented something like 'laughs in AWS' (comment was removed before I submitted the comment)... please don't... glass house and all that... but I also share the same glass house as you.. I don't want bad luck ... and it's only a fluke that this happened to google in eu-east1 and not AWS in X region and then you (and I) would be having a time of hell! :/

And did we forget about the insane AWS east outages of two years ago?

Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

#44
post #13

What's the actual number of 9s for the major cloud services these days? My impression from their PR seems to mismatch the number of outages and issues lately.

AWS EC2 promises 4 9's (4.3 minutes of downtime/month) before their SLA kicks in, but they only give a 10% discount until availability dips below 99% (7.5 hours of downtime/month) when they give a 30% discount. If availability is below 95% (36 hours) in a month, they give a full refund.

For an individual instance, they only promise 90% availability.

Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

#45
post #15

In a moment that's likely to be very, very frustrating for a large number of you that have businesses and customers that depend on G cloud, let's try to remember that somewhere there's an engineer or an SRE having a really hard day just trying to fix things. Please, be kind and decent to each other, especially when things are hard.

I don't follow comments like these, should people refrain from criticising giant companies because there are people working at them? I don't understand the purpose of this comment

Me neither. I haven't seen a single time somebody yelling at an engineer of Google in the middle of an outage.

Downvoters pls link here the yelling you have seen.

Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

#47

In a moment that's likely to be very, very frustrating for a large number of you that have businesses and customers that depend on G cloud, let's try to remember that somewhere there's an engineer or an SRE having a really hard day just trying to fix things. Please, be kind and decent to each other, especially when things are hard.

kumbaya my lord

Can you please not post unsubstantive comments to HN?

Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

#48
post #13

What's the actual number of 9s for the major cloud services these days? My impression from their PR seems to mismatch the number of outages and issues lately.

I don't think that thinking about cloud computing in terms of nines is the correct way to frame the issue. cloud storage, maybe, but cloud gives you the cheap bricks you need to build the nines for your customers using replication, independent zones and clever routing.

now I wouldn't go as far as to say outages are the normal state of thing, but cloud trades high nines for cheap redundancy. a raid for compute, if you will, and as such a single zone deployment is going to have outages.

(and then there's soft layer which has multiple unplanned sev1 per week)

Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

#49
post #26

Looks like an external issue. "The Cloud Networking service (Standard Tier) has lost multiple independent fiber links within us-east1 zone. Vendor has been notified and are currently investigating the issue."

It's not independent fiber links if they use the same tube to get into the building...just ask any backhoe operator.

Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1

#50
post #13

What's the actual number of 9s for the major cloud services these days? My impression from their PR seems to mismatch the number of outages and issues lately.

Depending on which metric you are talking about. There roughly 10 metrics you might be thinking of.
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