The social media strike, as organized on Hacker News, Twitter, Facebook, etc. I honestly don't think people have much interest in striking these days if they can't post it on social media, but maybe this will have legs. It's a little telling though that this really can't be organized any other way besides social media these days, and I suspect there will be a lot of people throughout those 2 days checking in on social media to see how it's going.
Tell HN: Social media strike proposed for July 4-5 by Wikipedia co-founder
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#43It never held any power over me. I was always skeptical of it from the start. That’s why it is hard to imagine something like a social media strike. For many of us it has no power over our minds.
This seems problematic if you consider yourselves unaffected thus uninvested.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not just her business, her identity. Their whole family is based on being a brand.
One reason would be that her media business is controlled by a corporation that could ban her without notice at any moment and without reason. A decentralized network would allow her more control.
It would also be harder for her to build an audience and make money from it in the first place.
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#45Eh? There already are decentralized social networks available to use. This doesn’t add up. And as others have pointed out, what networks are eligible for this forced decentralization process? Should some networks be allowed to be centralized? Which ones, if so? Let’s not be too hasty.
> Eh? There already are decentralized social networks available to use. This doesn’t add up.
I agree. They've always existed in one form or the other, it's just that nobody gave a fuck. Mastodon kinda changed that by attracting about half a million monthly users. A tiny, tiny number for a social network, but a gigantic number for a decentralized social network.
This website is good for the overview of the "fediverse" (collection of social media services talking together via open protocols): https://the-federation.info/
Hell, name a social network, and I can name at least one attempt at decentralizing it: Twitter (Mastodon, Pleroma), Instagram (PixelFed, Anfora), reddit (Lemmy), YouTube (PeerTube), SoundCloud (Funkwhale), Medium (Write.as) etc. An obvious one that I haven't listed is Facebook, but that thing has so many features that a viable alternative heavily depends on which Facebook features you actually use.
I see nothing wrong with this strike, but I don't see how spreading awareness helps if you don't point to the most obvious solution available.
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#46I created Timelines - a social network that allows people to own their data.
Timelines stores your data in a specific folder on your Google Drive which is sandboxed from all your other data on Google drive.
Check it out!
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#47There are already options for decentralized social media. So clearly the majority of people is not in favor of using them, or they would simply do so (without a strike). Therefore, this is about a minority trying to force the majority of people to adapt to their preferences. I can not sympathize with such a cause, even though I personally would prefer decentralized solutions. It reminds me of the town that voted to b…
I think you're oversimplifying people.
Lots of people want to lose weight while also loving the taste of delicious food that makes them gain weight. Same with smoking, drinking, recycling, etc.
It really comes down to the cost on people to do something.
If your building didn't provide a recycling bin, you probably wouldn't take the trouble to take all your recycling to a recycling facility.
If none of your friends used social media, chances are you wouldn't either.
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#48I feel that even if everybody who cared went on strike, the difference in daily visitors would probably be in the error margin. I think most people who really care have already left the centralised social media or scaled it down to the point that a non-strike day is an exception. I do not disagree with the message, but I seriously doubt that this will have any effect.
I think there could be some useful purposes for everyone outside of social media: unifying those people, helping them find each other, mobilizing them to take community measures. I think it's safe to say that at this point we're not looking for another social network to replace Facebook or another search engine to replace Google - we need to start finding ways to work decentralized but still come together -this is going to come out sounding silly, but - on the Internet's behalf.
This could be good. Stuff like #deletefacebook was interesting, but it didn't help people find alternatives. I like that a 'strike' implies group action together toward some kind of progress.
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#49The social media strike, as organized on Hacker News, Twitter, Facebook, etc. I honestly don't think people have much interest in striking these days if they can't post it on social media, but maybe this will have legs. It's a little telling though that this really can't be organized any other way besides social media these days, and I suspect there will be a lot of people throughout those 2 days checking in on socia…
This is already happening to some degree - like I wonder what percentage of Twitter messaging is now complaining about Twitter. Yes, this could just generate some small increase in traffic for the day - but that's an acceptable short-term concession if it means the centralized social networks could go away in the long-term.
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#50I created Timelines - a social network that allows people to own their data. Timelines stores your data in a specific folder on your Google Drive which is sandboxed from all your other data on Google drive. Check it out! https://www.timelines.co
You own your data by uploading it directly to Google servers?