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AMD Responds to WSJ ‘Keys to the Kingdom’ Story

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Re: AMD Responds to WSJ ‘Keys to the Kingdom’ Story

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Post by yoz-y »

nradov wrote: post #27
tinktank wrote: post #24

Hypothetical question: Let's say a news source writes a story that tanks a company's stock price and then, over the course of time the company is able to prove the story is false and/or the news source is unable to back up the story. Can the company sue the newspaper for damages?

Even if the company can prove that the newspaper engaged in libel it would be difficult to establish compensatory damages. Regardless of stock price changes, the company hasn't lost any assets. They might have a shot at getting legal fees plus some punitive damages depending on how egregious the newspaper's conduct was.

A tanking stock might lose the company some employees though.

Re: AMD Responds to WSJ ‘Keys to the Kingdom’ Story

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Post by duxup »

sbov wrote: post #25
duxup wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless I'm misunderstanding aren't you just proving the point / following the usual example of proof people give of a conspiracy? Every conspiracy claim has some related story people point to and draw a line from. The claim is that the article was FUD. The fact that companies who are competitors can compete fiercely doesn't prove anything.

So basically: fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Learn your lesson, it's a conspiracy theory. Also, calling it "fierce competition" is a mischaracterization of their actions. They have been fined by countries for these practices, and have done what they could to keep the evidence from public view. Intel deserves the suspicion they get.

Do you feel your description supports means the article is FUD?

Re: AMD Responds to WSJ ‘Keys to the Kingdom’ Story

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Post by mehrdadn »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #30
tinktank wrote: post #24

Hypothetical question: Let's say a news source writes a story that tanks a company's stock price and then, over the course of time the company is able to prove the story is false and/or the news source is unable to back up the story. Can the company sue the newspaper for damages?

Oh, like Bloomberg's The Big Hack ?

I completely forgot about that. Did anything come of it?

Re: AMD Responds to WSJ ‘Keys to the Kingdom’ Story

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Post by seldonnn »

unethical_ban wrote: post #14
duxup wrote: post #5

>The Wall Street Journal story omits important factual details, including the fact that AMD put significant protections in place to protect its intellectual property (IP) and prevent valuable IP from being misused or reverse engineered to develop future generations of processors. Without knowing what those protections are, I'm not sure we have learned much. Also the US government not objecting, I'm not sure changes t…

Eh, the lean of the article and the comments on the original HN thread were knocking AMD for it as if they were going against American interests by being successfully bullied by China into giving up valuable IP. AMD is saying that a) the IP was not of the highest value or performance, and b) it's unlikely to go against American national security interests when DoC and DoJ both give explicit sign-off. Remember too tha…

You have it backwards.

Re: AMD Responds to WSJ ‘Keys to the Kingdom’ Story

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Post by Proven »

tinktank wrote: post #24

Hypothetical question: Let's say a news source writes a story that tanks a company's stock price and then, over the course of time the company is able to prove the story is false and/or the news source is unable to back up the story. Can the company sue the newspaper for damages?

> Can the company sue the newspaper for damages?

Duh!

They can always sue. Unless they can prove malicious intent, they won't win.

Re: AMD Responds to WSJ ‘Keys to the Kingdom’ Story

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Post by HeWhoLurksLate »

marktangotango wrote: post #45
Havoc wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Made good money off that one :D

Interesting, can you provide more detail?

My guess is that he shorted SuperMicro during that time period- that makes the most sense to me.

Re: AMD Responds to WSJ ‘Keys to the Kingdom’ Story

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Post by z2 »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #47
marktangotango wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting, can you provide more detail?

My guess is that he shorted SuperMicro during that time period- that makes the most sense to me.

Or the opposite, as in buying the stock when it was down and seeing it nearly double since then.

Re: AMD Responds to WSJ ‘Keys to the Kingdom’ Story

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Post by baybal2 »

m3kw9 wrote: post #6

Transferring lower speed tech still could be a huge jump from what China had, the main point is architecture is hard to put a value to it. For what is known, maybe slower means lowering the hertz

Man, IC designers who work on state backed IC projects are given salaries significantly higher than that of designers at Intel and Apple.

Otherwise they would not have a single chance to bring in anybody of an anymuch high calibre to China

Re: AMD Responds to WSJ ‘Keys to the Kingdom’ Story

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Post by Thorrez »

mizzack wrote: post #12
duxup wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's got to be a law or something where for a given thread there is some user who has a conspiracy theory about it.

Conspiracies, eh https://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49#49 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Micro_Devices,_Inc._v... . Full disclosure, I'm long $AMD ;)

Those say Intel was unfairly competing with AMD.

That's different from Intel conspiring with the Wall Street Journal to write negative (and maybe false) articles about AMD.

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