Can anyone explain the argument against the legality/morality of videotaping a police officer performing their official duties?
Schneier on Security: Recording the Police
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#42Can anyone explain the argument against the legality/morality of videotaping a police officer performing their official duties?
police officers have a hard and dangerous job to do and they do it for our safety. if they have to worry about being video taped all the time they will be less effective in this job.
Banning accountability is a big step in the wrong direction.
They also get paid and they are not required to put their life at risk.
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#44"... This is all important. Being able to record the police is one of the best ways to ensure that the police are held accountable for their actions. ..." It's not only Police. In the local news today it's "ticket inspectors" using unreasonable force: "Brouwer says too much force not the ticket" [0] ~ http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/brouwer-says-too-much-forc... [0] The Age, Nick McKenzie 2010DEC22
Shrug. It's the job of ticket inspectors to make sure people aren't travelling without tickets. If you're travelling without a ticket, it's their job to give you a fine. They need to have certain powers if they're gonna do their job properly, which includes the power to apprehend people who try to run away from them. So reasonable force from a ticket inspector is perfectly justified. And of course anyone on the recei…
This illustrates the need for video evidence perfectly. Without the footage many people would instinctively agree with you, but faced with the footage it's clear that the inspectors are in the wrong.
[Edit - it's more obvious in some of the later scenes]
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't need to video tape for that to happen.
No, but it makes it a lot easier.
If you're going to send guys with guns around - assuming that they have the authority to use violence to conduct their jobs - and they're being paid out of my tax dollars, and claiming to be part of an organization that represents me; I damn sure expect to be able to monitor them.
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#46Can anyone explain the argument against the legality/morality of videotaping a police officer performing their official duties?
police officers have a hard and dangerous job to do and they do it for our safety. if they have to worry about being video taped all the time they will be less effective in this job.
Too bad. You can't give people guns and mace and handcuffs and a "legal right" to use force, and then say "you can't ask them to be accountable for their actions."
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot is discussed about cops using racial profiling and targeting certain neighborhoods. I have a theory that there's another form of profiling that targets more affluent areas for traffic citations to bring in revenue. Is this a concern for anybody?
Any kind of oppression you can avoid by wearing your seatbelt and driving the speed limit is not true oppression.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the cases of some public servants, like police officers, that is not a direct parallel as they are not spending a lot of time in the office. Public servants performing their duty in public should be subject to the scrutiny of the public. Even if you are a government employee working at a desk in a public building you should be subject to the same. I admit it is just not feasible to allow any and all private citize…
Public servants performing their duty in public should be subject to the scrutiny of the public. That's usually the caveat I put when I make that statement, but I forgot to that time (and again, most of my govt work is in public and I would fall under that). There are times when privacy is essential for govt workers but those times rarely during public interaction, and when they are, it's usually because the tasks ar…
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#49I've always believed that it should be legal to audio and/or video record any government employee/contractor during the performance of their official duties (and I say that as a govt contractor). If we can't be accountable to the public, how can we expect to serve the public?
OK, please send me your address so I can set up a camera in your office.
Privacy has to be viewed in the context of relative power. For example, the government has a lot more power than the people. So privacy for the government increases their power and increases the power imbalance between government and the people; it decreases liberty ... Privacy for the people increases their power. It also increases liberty, because it reduces the power imbalance between government and the people
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#50Can anyone explain the argument against the legality/morality of videotaping a police officer performing their official duties?
police officers have a hard and dangerous job to do and they do it for our safety. if they have to worry about being video taped all the time they will be less effective in this job.