Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias • Hacker News Board

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

#41

Post by EricE » Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 4:23 AM UTC

jeromic wrote: post #16

Google has removed the original video from youtube over a "privacy claim" and have disabled responses on this medium post. It makes it hard to give Google the benefit of the doubt when their stance seems to be "stop talking about it", instead of addressing the content of the video.

Why do Google, Twitter, Facebook or any of these companies deserve safe harbor provisions?

They aren't transparent in their decision making processes, and it's beyond obvious that the "Rules" are applied unequally.

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

#42

Post by cromwellian » Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 4:57 AM UTC

slubaro1987 wrote: post #4

Crontab wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of the Planned Parenthood hatchet job.

Also that time O'Keefe and co edited a speech about racial tolerance and solidarity among impoverished farmers to make it seem like the speaker was advocating racism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firing_of_Shirley_Sherrod Veritas has been caught doing this exact type of numerous times, and why anyone would consider them to be a credible source of information beggers belief. Hell they even refer to themselves as an i…

Also, the "Google Insider" talked about secret meetings at a Masonic Temple. This almost made me think that Veritas got punked by a fake Google employee trying to feed them made up nonsense.

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

#43

Post by cromwellian » Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 5:00 AM UTC

cannedslime wrote: post #39

What a lame excuse to be completely honest. The Project Veritas video clearly isn't edited like she claims it is, she is downright admitting to redefine what "fairness" means so it is the opposite. The video clearly shows creepy slides on how google plans to "program" humans, condition them to a certain political viewpoint, even if they have to censor truth... Just split up google at this point...

That's not what those slides say at all, they're talking about how biased information already programs you.

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

#44

Post by anon12345690 » Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 9:47 AM UTC

UncleMeat wrote: post #20

jeromic wrote: post #16

Google has removed the original video from youtube over a "privacy claim" and have disabled responses on this medium post. It makes it hard to give Google the benefit of the doubt when their stance seems to be "stop talking about it", instead of addressing the content of the video.

Given that she has already gotten threatening messages, that seems like a reasonable response. The primary responsibility should be to the safety of the employee.

same excuse always used but no evidence. at least post a screenshot. they never do. never call the police. just an easy cover up to play the victim.

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

#45

Post by anon12345690 » Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 9:50 AM UTC

v7p1Qbt1im wrote: post #23

jeromic wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Elizabeth Warren is saying we should break up Google. And like, I love her but she’s very misguided, like that will not make it better it will make it worse, because all these smaller companies who don’t have the same resources that we do will be charged with preventing the next Trump situation, it’s like a small company cannot do that.” “We all got screwed over in 2016, again it wasn’t just us, it was, the people g…

It could also just mean, they weren't prepared for the onslaught of bad actors like troll/bot farms. Those actors often take both sides of the argument with the simple goal to instigate hate and rage and eventually cause as much societal division as possible.

did you see the meeting video leaked after the election? they were all actually crying and upset and swore to change things. this isnt a single incident. they openly say this in the company, its like a cult

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

#46

Post by anon12345690 » Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 9:55 AM UTC

jjeaff wrote: post #21

mrosett wrote: post #10

I'm no fan of James O'Keefe, but some of the direct quotes are much more incriminating than this response makes them out to be: > “Elizabeth Warren is saying we should break up Google. And like, I love her but she’s very misguided, like that will not make it better it will make it worse, because all these smaller companies who don’t have the same resources that we do will be charged with preventing the next Trump sit…

It doesn't seem incriminating at all. When she says "the Trump situation" in this context it seems clear she is talking about making sure that foreign and otherwise nefarious actors are not able to game search results and the ad system to spread disinformation. Which is what happened in the last election.

right after they spent years telling everyone that there was no tampering? so did they lie before or is she lying now?

why dont you watch the leaked video of the meeting right after the election that shows them all being upset and saying it cant happen again. they openly say this in teh company and email about it all the time.

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

#47

Post by anon12345690 » Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 9:56 AM UTC

dmode wrote: post #17

Project Veritas is truly some bottom of barrel garbage, probably worse than Alex Jones.

what are you refuting? they have video of the people saying it

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

#48

Post by anon12345690 » Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 9:56 AM UTC

vetinari wrote: post #33

guilhas wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Important story that no other main news source is reporting.

That begs another question: why?

because the media is liberal and they also push for censorship

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

#49

Post by anon12345690 » Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 9:57 AM UTC

cannedslime wrote: post #38

guilhas wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Important story that no other main news source is reporting.

And why is that exactly?

leftist news that pushes for censorship is not running a story exposing leftist company doing censorship. not surprising.

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

#50

Post by cannedslime » Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 3:02 PM UTC

cromwellian wrote: post #43

cannedslime wrote: post #39

What a lame excuse to be completely honest. The Project Veritas video clearly isn't edited like she claims it is, she is downright admitting to redefine what "fairness" means so it is the opposite. The video clearly shows creepy slides on how google plans to "program" humans, condition them to a certain political viewpoint, even if they have to censor truth... Just split up google at this point...

That's not what those slides say at all, they're talking about how biased information already programs you.

I am not sure what slide you think I am referring to. Just not to confuse people here is a transcription of the slide that I am referring to:

It is a flow chart btw.

"Training data are collected and classified" -> "Algorithms are programmed" -> "Media are filtered, ranked, aggregated, or generated" -> "People (Like us) are programmed"

Make up your own mind.