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Re: Privacy-friendly alternatives to Google

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Post by Youden »

rsync wrote: post #35

Please consider adding rsync.net as a privacy friendly[1] alternative to gdrive, etc. We just added the 'rclone'[2] binary executable to our (very strictly limited) environment which basically allows you to send/recv to and from any cloud service . So, not just a good alternative to google drive (et. al) but a very useful "cloud storage swiss army knife" in general. [1] https://www.rsync.net/resources/notices/canary.…

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I _love_ the idea of rsync.net but the pricing just cripples it. $40/TBmo up to 10TB, $30/TBmo up to 100TB or $20/TBmo beyond that. And you have to buy the storage up front and pay for it even if you don't use it.

To put this in perspective, I can get a Hetzner SX62 dedicated server for $72 USD/month. This comes with 4x10TB HDDs which I can put into RAID5, giving me 30TB usable storage. It also comes with an unlimited gigabit pipe, RAM and a CPU. In total, this costs $2.4/TBmo.

If I want duplication in multiple countries (which isn't included in rsync.net's base price?), I can buy a second one, increasing my costs to a horrendous $4.8/TBmo, still a quarter of the cheapest price I can get at rsync.net.

I get the "I don't want to manage the hardware" argument but 4x (arguably 8x) is way too high a cost for me.

I'm aware of the Attic/Borg plan and I really like the idea but it's only close to competitive at the highest 100TB+ pricing ($5/TBmo).

Re: Privacy-friendly alternatives to Google

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Post by matty22 »

jm4 wrote: post #37
matty22 wrote: post #16

I've been looking for an alternative to Google Docs/Sheets/Slides/etc for a while and I've seen these couple of suggestions come up a few times. Each time I look at them, I find their websites to be incomprehensible to what their product actually _is_. The worst of them is Coda. Looking at their landing page, I have NO idea what Coda is or does. None of the other alternatives seem to do what I want easily. I want to…

I thought it looked neat and wanted to try it. Click the sign up button and it asks me to log in with Google. No other options. The easiest way to get me to ditch a product is to use Google or Facebook for authentication. Right off the bat, I’m thinking monetizing user data is the primary component of the business model. It’s guilt by association at this point. Besides, I don’t use Google or Facebook and I’m not abou…

Wow, so there you go. Strike #2!

Re: Privacy-friendly alternatives to Google

#43

Post by rsync »

Youden wrote: post #41
rsync wrote: post #35

Please consider adding rsync.net as a privacy friendly[1] alternative to gdrive, etc. We just added the 'rclone'[2] binary executable to our (very strictly limited) environment which basically allows you to send/recv to and from any cloud service . So, not just a good alternative to google drive (et. al) but a very useful "cloud storage swiss army knife" in general. [1] https://www.rsync.net/resources/notices/canary.…

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I _love_ the idea of rsync.net but the pricing just cripples it. $40/TBmo up to 10TB, $30/TBmo up to 100TB or $20/TBmo beyond that. And you have to buy the storage up front and pay for it even if you don't use it. To put this in perspective, I can get a Hetzner SX62 dedicated server for $72 USD/month. This comes with 4x10TB HDDs which I can put into RAID5, giving me 30TB usa…

Your points are very well taken and appreciated.

Two things:

First, we are going to continue to slowly decrease the price per gigabyte, as we have these past 14 years - and as always, existing customers just get grants, or gifts, of extra space so that their price per GB always drops to match our current pricing for new customers.

Second, just to clarify: "And you have to buy the storage up front and pay for it even if you don't use it." - please note that:

We can increase the size of your filesystem at any time, with no downtime involved - so there is no need to overbuy in anticipation of future usage.

Further, you are granted a +10% grace at all times, so you always have some room to grow.

Finally, the system automatically emails you as you get close to your limit, so there is never an unexpected filling of space.

Re: Privacy-friendly alternatives to Google

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Post by lwhalen »

bgdnyxbjx wrote: post #17
opticbit wrote: post #10

https://alternativeto.net/ not all results will be privacy focused. some other alternatives Browser waterfox and other forks search yacy email self hosted various vps serves sheets/docs own/next cloud. libre/open office video hooktube invidius adwords a-ads dns opennic drive sia ipfs storj... hangouts keybase bitmessage tox images pixeldrain(sia)

Don’t host your own email. Unless you don’t want anyone to be able receive your emails.

I've been hosting my own email for years. It's not without its challenges, but it's certainly not what I would call 'insurmountable'. This 'never host your own email!' meme needs to go.

Re: Privacy-friendly alternatives to Google

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Post by matty22 »

oil25 wrote: post #23

How are these alternatives "privacy-friendly"? I'm pretty sure Opera, Vimeo and many others are monetized and include advertising. Also, why does something like Google Authenticator need a "privacy-friendly" alternative when it doesn't even need Internet connectivity to work? Don't get me wrong, we should put down Google products, but are the ones listed here really any better for privacy and security?

Looking at AirTable's Privacy Policy, it does not appear that they have any interest in protecting privacy. They have a line in their "How We Share Your Data" section, that reads:

* With others for any legitimate business purpose, provided the information is aggregated and anonymized.

So...you're selling it.

Re: Privacy-friendly alternatives to Google

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Post by npsimons »

Second Leaflet. When Google Maps dropped support for loading GPX files from external websites (a handy way to share tracks ), I was forced to find my own solution. I found Leaflet and a few hours later I was up and running with topo maps and GPX tracks overlayed on my own webserver.

Re: Privacy-friendly alternatives to Google

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Post by jammygit »

XzetaU8 wrote: post #18
mikedd wrote: post #6

I love how this always pops-up and how I always reply with these 2 links: - https://prism-break.org/ - https://droid-break.info/

Privacytools is another one worth mentioning https://www.privacytools.io/ https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io

Seconded, it’s a great resource. Just started with Joplin because of actually
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