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With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by malvosenior »

bad_user wrote: post #23
hannob wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or get a gym membership, actually use it and eat less crap. This may only give you a few years, but chances that it'll actually work are much higher.

You don’t need a gym membership. For cardio you can go to any park for running or biking. It’s way more fun. For strength training you can do bodyweight strength training at home with no equipment required (calisthenics). Most people fall into the trap of paying for a gym membership, but then they never use it, because let’s face it, going to the gym wastes time and is uncomfortable. If you train at home by using the…

Can you suggest some good pointers on how to get started with that type of routine?

Edit: thanks for the responses, awesome.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by kristofferR »

ggambetta wrote: post #3
BuildTheRobots wrote: post #2

Anyone interested in the idea of living longer (without the detrimental effects of aging) should check out any Aubrey De Grey talk/video/interview.

I'm extremely interested in the topic (as I get older but happen to like living). However some people seem to think De Grey is a bit of a crackpot?

He's far from a crackpot (negative connotations), eccentric would be a better term. Don't forget that De Grey has been one of the main popularizer of anti-aging science, and largely thanks to him there's now serious momentum behind it.

This recent interview with Aubrey de Grey is really worth listening to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMFST20xHwk

He seems to think that anti-aging science has speeded up drastically recently, both in terms of the science itself, the funding and the popularity. I really love what the SENS Foundation is doing in terms of spinning research avenues into startups, since most investors are far more likely to fund high-risk investments than non-profit ones.

He also mentions other positive developments in terms of legislation and advocacy.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by francisofascii »

qwsxyh wrote: post #30
novaRom wrote: post #7

Yes we can. Calorie restriction is well known slowing biological aging process. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie_restriction

I swear most HN users have some form of orthorexia.

Diet and the human body in general is a complex system the HN users want to understand, hack, optimize, perfect.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by [deleted] »

malvosenior wrote: post #35
m4r35n357 wrote: post #19

By living longer you are merely stealing resources from those that follow you. You can have immortality or reproduction - choose.

I would never classify being alive as “stealing resources” but regardless, you’re assuming that people don’t make meaningful contributions to society while alive. What if while you were living longer you cured cancer? Under your philosophy wouldn’t reproducing steal even more resources? If you have three children then you’re stealing them 3X faster.

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Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by Nasrudith »

RichardHeart wrote: post #36

In this thread I've seen the overpopulation argument framed as theft. Here are all the others I've found. Summary of pro death arguments: Fairness Only rich people will get it. (No tech has ever done this.) Better to give money to the poor than science. (family, city, state, nation, has proven local investment beats foreign.) Bad for society Dead people make more room for new, other people. (consider going first.) Ru…

Not to mention the other flaw of the "theft" framework or one or the other. Even if there was a fixed limit we would run against in spite of all innovations it is more efficient resource wise to build one person for 1000 years than 20 generations that live to 50. Growth and death itself has more expenses.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by SeanDav »

agent008t wrote: post #21
whatshisface wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing is for sure, the average Western diet has so many calories than most people could probably do with a little restriction. (Not even to do anything special, just to return to a healthy state.)

At the same time, many young men in the West struggle to put on weight and are underweight.

Can't decide if this is sarcastic/tongue-in-cheek or serious. If serious - would love to see source(s) for that statistic....

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by mcv »

agent008t wrote: post #21
whatshisface wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing is for sure, the average Western diet has so many calories than most people could probably do with a little restriction. (Not even to do anything special, just to return to a healthy state.)

At the same time, many young men in the West struggle to put on weight and are underweight.

In the West? Men? I'd love to see statistics for that.

In general, being overweight is a far, far larger problem in the West, and being underweight is extremely rare outside of eating disorders like anorexia. There are people who are naturally skinny due to how their metabolism works, but they are rarely truly underweight.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by valgor »

malvosenior wrote: post #41
bad_user wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t need a gym membership. For cardio you can go to any park for running or biking. It’s way more fun. For strength training you can do bodyweight strength training at home with no equipment required (calisthenics). Most people fall into the trap of paying for a gym membership, but then they never use it, because let’s face it, going to the gym wastes time and is uncomfortable. If you train at home by using the…

Can you suggest some good pointers on how to get started with that type of routine? Edit: thanks for the responses, awesome.

When I got interested in this type of workout, I just youtubed videos, picked out exercises that I wanted to do, and created my own routine.
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