Birds have started chirping like hell at 3am -- never seen that happen before ever. Who knows how the hell all this radiowave, wifi, and now 5g is raping nature.
How can we allow this to happen?
New Swiss studies claim 5G increases body temperature of insects
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Re: New Swiss studies claim 5G increases body temperature of insects
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most, almost all animals are mostly water. About 2GHz you have a frequency that resonates with water, it's gets stopped by water, including rain. E.g. it's energy goes into the water, this is how the microwave operates. For this reason it's traditionally considers useless as radio transmission. And turned into a global free frequency span. Making this radio space used by all kinds of devices that you have at home. Wi…
Above 20GHz you mean.
Microwave oven is about 2.45 GHz, and I agree it's not optimal for heating water. But the middle of the free 2.4GHz to 2.5GHz band.
Re: New Swiss studies claim 5G increases body temperature of insects
#43What I want to know is who is behind the 5G fear-mongering. I see this all the time and from different places. My poor conspiracy-minded elderly uncle in western Pennsylvania has been had by Fox News and the rest of the insane-right. He sends me stuff like this all the time. What I want to understand is who stands to benefit from 5G not coming to pass. Is it a just one of many conspiracy theories cooked by a Kremlin…
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/12/science/5g-phone-safety-h...
So you're suggesting RT is behind a Swiss study?
No, he's not suggesting that. His comment is a response to the questions asked by its direct parent, not a comment on the submitted article.
Re: New Swiss studies claim 5G increases body temperature of insects
#45I'm not surprised. Millimeter wave can do that among other things.
Re: New Swiss studies claim 5G increases body temperature of insects
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you're suggesting RT is behind a Swiss study?
No, he's not suggesting that. His comment is a response to the questions asked by its direct parent, not a comment on the submitted article.
Buuuuut that was written with something of a suggestion that this study or this report about the study is a bit of FUD about 5g, no?
It sure seems like a straight line to me.
Re: New Swiss studies claim 5G increases body temperature of insects
#47What I want to know is who is behind the 5G fear-mongering. I see this all the time and from different places. My poor conspiracy-minded elderly uncle in western Pennsylvania has been had by Fox News and the rest of the insane-right. He sends me stuff like this all the time. What I want to understand is who stands to benefit from 5G not coming to pass. Is it a just one of many conspiracy theories cooked by a Kremlin…
I don’t condone the attitudes of people like your uncle or the hyper-sensationalized news that feeds them, but I’m equally discouraged by your response. Why shouldn’t we be skeptical of new technologies and their impact on our environment or ourselves?
We should encourage research like this, despite the overreactions that might ensue. The idea that we fully understand the effects of our technology in aggregate is prideful and short-sighted.
Re: New Swiss studies claim 5G increases body temperature of insects
#48Birds have started chirping like hell at 3am -- never seen that happen before ever. Who knows how the hell all this radiowave, wifi, and now 5g is raping nature. How can we allow this to happen?
I often walk home around 3 or 4am and I've noticed birds start chirping around this time since about 10 years ago, what timescale are you giving me? I always thought it was the streetlights, but now I live in a less well lit neighborhood and still hear the early risers about 3:30am.
This would be a pretty cool dataset to look at ... I wonder if anyone living in a radio quiet zone could give us a data point !
Re: New Swiss studies claim 5G increases body temperature of insects
#49Basically blog spam that cites an activist group that claims to have "published studies" that were published a year ago, having nothing to do with them. It is of course a concern that should be looked at, but we're currently in the "fear monger" stage with 5G. Those people who do the studies are the good people, but the people who take it and misrepresent it leverage fear of change/the new.
Though I can't say what you are saying is not true, in the case of electromagnetic issues I think it's the government which is not really doing it job because profit is more important. The NIH already showed that cancer can be caused by 2g and 3g in rats. https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/high-exposure-... https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/416515-theres-a-clear...
The "mice in a microwave" studies wouldn't need to resort to extreme dosages if they could cause cancer with realistic exposure levels. Yet they always resort to extreme dosages. Reading them makes me feel more comfortable around my cell phone, not less comfortable.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But those mmWaves for 5G are much higher frequency, and they get absorbed by more materials 4G is on the order of 10^9 Hz (1 GHz), and 5G is on the order of 10^10 - 10^11 Hz. Both are non-ionizing radiation, and in the overall scheme of things, relatively close in frequency. Ionizing radiation causes cell mutation. It starts with UV radiation at 10^16 Hz. X-rays are around 10^18 Hz. We can't say with certainty that…
You know the World Health Organization lists cell phones as "Possibly Causing Cancer in Humans" right? That's the world's leading authority on human health saying that. I don't care that technically speaking cell phones "can't" cause cancer because they are thought to be non-ionizing. That's just the same as all the other things in history that have been impossible until they've been done.
WHO lists many many things as possibly being carcinogens. Remember that the world health organization had coffee listed as a possible carcinogen for 25 years before it was removed in 2016.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/world-health-organization-to-dr...