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SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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I hope that's the case, honestly, and I hope that it does go to court. I'm frankly sick and tired of the 'unlimited' advertising model, wherein unlimited really means limited to some arbitrary amount that is not disclosed. As a customer who has been kicked off of a number of unlimited hosting services for a site that only does ~30Gb or so in traffic in a month, I'd love to see hard limits advertised rather than 'unli…

We (at DreamHost) don't state any explicit limits as they're pretty fluid in practice. The effective limits are basically: * Don't use enough resources that you make it hard for us to provide good service to other customers. (Saturating the network / filling the filesystem = bad.) * If you're legitimately using lots of resources, we'll move you around if you start getting near the limits on the hardware you're on, bu…

What you're describing is exactly the problem. I don't want to worry about whether or not I'm exceeding some subjective limit, I want a hard number limit that I can compare to my actual usage.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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Could this month get any better for Amazon? -It's December -Mastercard.com and Paypal.com went down making Amazon one of the few on-line shops that could still process payments -Since no Amazon service went down under DDoS, big companies will come crawling to them to use AWS -SimpleCDN goes down, no doubt driving lots of customers to bigger parties like AWS -They are making boat loads of money http://www.wolframalpha…

"... making Amazon one of the few on-line shops that could still process payments" is a huge overstatement. Mastercard.com and Visa.com being down has no material effect on almost all eCommerce (I don't remember the last time I had visited either). PayPal does, but that affects Amazon as well since they accept PayPal at places like Zappos and Diapers.com.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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post #37
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope that's the case, honestly, and I hope that it does go to court. I'm frankly sick and tired of the 'unlimited' advertising model, wherein unlimited really means limited to some arbitrary amount that is not disclosed. As a customer who has been kicked off of a number of unlimited hosting services for a site that only does ~30Gb or so in traffic in a month, I'd love to see hard limits advertised rather than 'unli…

We (at DreamHost) don't state any explicit limits as they're pretty fluid in practice. The effective limits are basically: * Don't use enough resources that you make it hard for us to provide good service to other customers. (Saturating the network / filling the filesystem = bad.) * If you're legitimately using lots of resources, we'll move you around if you start getting near the limits on the hardware you're on, bu…

I'm curious, why don't you state limits on your site? You state "unlimited", when in fact it's not. You don't even have small print to cover yourself.

What if one of your customers end up taking you to court for breach of contract, of does your contract explain what you have just pointed out?

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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Could this month get any better for Amazon? -It's December -Mastercard.com and Paypal.com went down making Amazon one of the few on-line shops that could still process payments -Since no Amazon service went down under DDoS, big companies will come crawling to them to use AWS -SimpleCDN goes down, no doubt driving lots of customers to bigger parties like AWS -They are making boat loads of money http://www.wolframalpha…

Does mastercard.com process payments? I got the impression that it was just the marketing/corporate presence that was affected.

Securecode was affected as well, which is the payment portal you need to go through for many on-line shops.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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Could this month get any better for Amazon? -It's December -Mastercard.com and Paypal.com went down making Amazon one of the few on-line shops that could still process payments -Since no Amazon service went down under DDoS, big companies will come crawling to them to use AWS -SimpleCDN goes down, no doubt driving lots of customers to bigger parties like AWS -They are making boat loads of money http://www.wolframalpha…

"... making Amazon one of the few on-line shops that could still process payments" is a huge overstatement. Mastercard.com and Visa.com being down has no material effect on almost all eCommerce (I don't remember the last time I had visited either). PayPal does, but that affects Amazon as well since they accept PayPal at places like Zappos and Diapers.com.

both visa and mastercard had their payment processing servers down along with their websites.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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Since UK2 doesn't really have a CDN product themselves, as they resell HighWinds and Level3, their interest is a bit lower as opposed to SoftLayer which has million dollar contracts signed with InterNAP for connectivity and DC space, which also sells content delivery. My guess is it's not really about kicking out the competition but mostly the fact that they can't realistically offer the said bandwidth for the advert…

you do know they host youporn and other huge streaming services? youporn host around 800 machines with them and i would guess use a lot of bw. softlayer is not a small hoster, theyre big.

It's not a question of capability, it's a question of profitability.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does mastercard.com process payments? I got the impression that it was just the marketing/corporate presence that was affected.

Securecode was affected as well, which is the payment portal you need to go through for many on-line shops.

I guess it didn't affect everyone since I was able to use it on the day in question to make a Ticketmaster purchase on 12/8.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"... making Amazon one of the few on-line shops that could still process payments" is a huge overstatement. Mastercard.com and Visa.com being down has no material effect on almost all eCommerce (I don't remember the last time I had visited either). PayPal does, but that affects Amazon as well since they accept PayPal at places like Zappos and Diapers.com.

both visa and mastercard had their payment processing servers down along with their websites.

Well I was able to process payments just fine for both during the DDOS...

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

both visa and mastercard had their payment processing servers down along with their websites.

Well I was able to process payments just fine for both during the DDOS...

oh really? I spoke to someone who was unable to process payments and I saw a lot of people reporting it. Maybe it was isolated due to location? The people reporting it I saw were in the UK.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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From 100TB's TOS (presumably just added): We will not provide services to those that are using our services for: A content delivery network or content distribution network (CDN) is prohibited from running on our network. Special requests to run CDN services may be approved on a case by case basis. Failure to comply with this policy will result in the disabling of all hosting services. http://www.100tb.com/tos.php

That's a hilarious tactic. Are they now going to blacklist bandwidth intensive business models one by one until only blogs and "under construction" pages are left on their "high bandwidth" plans?

It's amusing in context, but it's not an absurd contract term. Hosting a CDN on an "unlimited" hosting provider is basically bandwidth arbitrage. It makes total sense that the hosting provider would want to limit their hosting to bona fide hosting customers.
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